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  1. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    Man you made my day, Well to be fair you ruined it completely as i have spent last 8 hours reading this. I must say that this article, analysis or whatever the hell it is the most accurate analysis of MMRCA competition. I found 98% of the information provided in this article as Spot-On Facts...
  2. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    You are correct about the length of MKI missions, and i do agree that some pilots maybe getting 300+ hours, but ask them how many of them were currency hours as a pilot and not as a GIBS, and then you would understand what this 300+ actually translates into. Do you know that a lot of two seater...
  3. Sapper

    First Chinese AEW&C ZDK-03 Karakoram Eagle Delivered

    Now my first assumption is that two complimenting AESAs are placed inside the rotating dome, i.e. the similar kind of double sided Erieye configuration, but in rotating configuration. This is based on the assumption that 1. Dual sided aesa was already available with china on Y-8 platform at...
  4. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    Dear, Your figures are totally wrong. You have no understanding of airforce do you. Airforces all over log 300+ hours per pilot in training role. All recruits fly ~250+ hr/yr, and their trainers log much more very easily. Now what comes after that is OCU, in which they log around 200+ on jets...
  5. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    Well, you are correct, the entire setup was done with the help of USAF and RAF as far as the equipment/organization/doctrine/structure goes. When talking about personnel attitute, it remains the same for PAF, and same for IAF, and same for both armies on the whole. Its the same attitude that...
  6. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    I think you got confused, i was not talking about F7-Papa, rather AIM 9-Papa. According to my knownledge, PAF also acquired upgrade kits for AIM Lima-Papa, My question is, Will Lima & Papa both be upgraded to Mike, or only Lima upgraded to Mike and Papas retired ? On your point, I fore see...
  7. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    Will the papas be upgraded or retired ? Regards, Sapper
  8. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    USAF and RAF had a great hand in PAF development, but PAF started deviating from USAF/RAF warfare scenarios during early and late 70's. PAF stuck to its GDP phillosophy, while USAF/RAF started believing in dedicated F14/F15 interceptors, dedicated ground support A10/F16, and dedicated B52/B1...
  9. Sapper

    Pakistans UAVs are tactical, not stretegic, i.e. short range, not long range. Typically they...

    Pakistans UAVs are tactical, not stretegic, i.e. short range, not long range. Typically they operate within 50~200 kms from their deployment, from where they go to desired location and keep station for long durations (~10hrs), relaying real-time enemy acticity and data. They are deployed with...
  10. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Dear, The fact is that 7 hard points was(and still is) too less to achieve 6ton loadout. General Dynamics saw this and promplty increased it to 11, i.e. +2 two on wings and +2 on chin. With these 4 extra hardpointsin F16C/D Bl25 could carry close to 5~5.5 ton, which still kept them thinking...
  11. Sapper

    First Chinese AEW&C ZDK-03 Karakoram Eagle Delivered

    Thats not the ONLY reason, another reason is that a larger array can be placed in a rotating dome giving more range, while placing triangular dome reduces the size of each array by ~20%. A simple trignometric analysis shows that the maximum array size of triangular dome (like KJ2000 and...
  12. Sapper

    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Dear Storm Force, I dont want to quarrel, but the stupidity of your argument amazes me. Does your Su30 require Sat-Link to communicate with its Awacs ... if thats the case ... please show me where the sat dish for Su30 is placed. You have copy pasted a 10,000 word bullsh.it article with only...
  13. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Dear, Do you mean to F16 have 5 x 1ton stations + 2x wingtip-stations with 700kg loads ??? Please explain . Please make me a bombing configuration with 6000kg bombs, assuming 2x200 kg amraams on wingtip (although F16A/B cannot launch it). Regards, Sapper
  14. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Please quote usable payload of F16 A/B, i.e. till block 20, with 7 hardpoints. F16 A/B has 7 hardpoints, 2 of them can carry 1-ton, and 2 are wingtip stations with <100kg. That leaves 3 stations. Center station cannot carry huge loads due to low ground clearance, but still can carry 600~700kg...
  15. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Dear, Capability is there, Integration is required, I agree, no doubt it needs time to integrate and develop weapons and test them. But it will remain block 1 aircraft, same aircraft, same radar, same avionics, only software upgrades, no hardware change. So after a couple of years of...
  16. Sapper

    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Dear, Not a noob question at all. Satelite links are required by AEW&C aircrafts that have to operate in large airspaces, to allow them to stay in contact with the ground C4I-Ground-Station if it opreates too far. Larger countries like China and India require this because that would require...
  17. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Dear, I agree to the fact that JF-17 block-2 will be awsome, rivaling and in some areas surpassing F16-Bl-52 in some areas (if it get AESA). But, year earlier statement that JF-17 block-1 is simple is inaccurate and fallicious. JF-17 Bl-1 surpasses F16-Bl-15 in all aspects, with its similar...
  18. Sapper

    Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions.

    Dear, Drones are non-stealth aircrafts, and are easily picked up on radar. Our nuclear facilities are extremely well covered as far as radar coverage is concerned. Both low-level and high-level radars are deployed close to nuclear installations to keep track of airspace. As for the so...
  19. Sapper

    Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

    SELF DELETE Just realized you were talking about a different even altogether. Sorry
  20. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    The Yellow missile is probably Y83/C803 test round with all the electronics-&-seeker without warhead & jet-engine , while the Blue one is probably only a dead-weight dummy round just for weight and aircraft handling testing. There is also a Red Covering on the exhaust on the Yellow-round, while...
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