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  1. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Dear, In the interest of fairness, i must offer some factual corrections. 1. The Current proposed lifecycle expentancy of Airframe is 4000hrs without overhaul/mid-life-upgrade. For F16, it is 8000, after Falcon-Star, its 16000 in total. 6. Maintenance Cost is 1/3rd of F16-Bl15, not 1/5th...
  2. Sapper

    Air Force Question Thread

    Dear, You are absolutely correct. There is a lot of DRAG at supersonic speed, and the action of slowing down the supersonic airflow to subsonic speeds produces quite a lot of drag. This is why the engine progressively loses its thrust to drag ratio, and there comes a point when the engine...
  3. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Dear, Ever heard of 2 Billion Dollar Submarine on Lease ? I give you the INS Chakra. I hate stooping to your level, but then again, if thats the only language you understand ... Try not to troll every single thread you come across, leave some for the rest. Please ... Regards, Sapper
  4. Sapper

    T-37 crash in Turkey kills PAF pilot on exchange.

    Inna Lillah e Wa Inna Ilaihe Rajioon. Dear, Please do not belittle the sacrifice made by Heroes, the ones who ready themselves and others to defend their nations, even with their own lives. I understand your anger, and its better to pray for them, and ask Allah Bari Taala to forgive their sins...
  5. Sapper

    Air Force Question Thread

    Dear, Good Question, But really tough to answer considering the audience. The Supersonic air flowing into an engine is slowed down, but in effect it is also being compressed, and as a result, it is also getting HOT. Thats the whole point of burning fuel in the engine, heat the air so the it...
  6. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    Dear, The information is incorrect. The 20,000lb+ thrust version of this engine is still only on drawing boards, and doesnot have a prototype as yet. It will take atleast 3~5 years to develop and test, assuming Ukrainians are very quick, and more than 2~3 years for serial production to start...
  7. Sapper

    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Dear, A bit of correction required, since presented information is being attributed to me. 1. Erieye uses AESA 75 deg on either side of perpendicular, meaning 75+75 = 150 deg on one side, 150 deg on the otherside, totaling 300 degree of total instantaneous coverage on both sides. Information...
  8. Sapper

    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Dear, I consider this Very Good information, and very informative, but a bit complex because its just a translation and prose is broken. Considering that i went through the entire Pilot's Guide of F16-MLU (~250+ pages), just to find if they supported 600 Gallon Fuel-Tanks, this was actually...
  9. Sapper

    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

    For Avionics Pictures, Please browse through this post. http://www.defence.pk/forums/jf-17-thunder/32359-jf-17-thunder-multirole-fighter-thread-3-a-148.html Regards, Sapper
  10. Sapper

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Well... There arleady is an unmanned F-16, called QF-16 target drone. Look it up. Regards, Sapper
  11. Sapper

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    Agreed. Just re-checked and confirmed. 600gal tanks can be carried on MLU F16s. Source : F-16 MLU Manual Part 2 Sorry for the mistake. Apologies to everyone. Regards, Sapper
  12. Sapper

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    1. The F16-BL25 onwards were built with 8 wingStations + 1 centerLine + 2 chinPodStations. Older F16s were originally built with only 6 wingStations + 1 centerline. The MLU will give it 2 additional stations on Chin for pods, but not the additional fully capable wing stations. 2. The newly built...
  13. Sapper

    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    On the contrary, we are investing this money NOT to let these marvelous machines go to junk. Rather overhaul them, renew their airframe to almost Zero-Hour, retrofit them with BL-52 avionics and radar. The only drawback is new hardpoints and CFTs cannot be installed. We have invested 1.5...
  14. Sapper

    Rafale and JF-17 Thunder to compete in Serbia.

    Well there are two points of view. One is not to sell them, Two is sell them and control them. Now if you dont sell them, thats good, and i am in favor of it. But that doesnot mean that they will not get weapons, instead they will get them from someone else. Conversely, if you sell them...
  15. Sapper

    Rafale and JF-17 Thunder to compete in Serbia.

    I did NOT say it cost 57 million USD, I said that would be the maximum price that serbians could pay in their 1.3b budget. The meaning of my earlier comparative analysis was that excluding armament the fighter plane should be lower in cost than 57 million USD to fit inside their budget...
  16. Sapper

    Rafale and JF-17 Thunder to compete in Serbia.

    Dear, There is a difference between posting a comment, and posting result of your research and analysis. Go to my profile and look for my posts, and you'll find out that 95% of my posts are presenting results of some research, rather then a tit for tat responce. I guess thats the reason why...
  17. Sapper

    Rafale and JF-17 Thunder to compete in Serbia.

    Well... Everyone here is talking about the price of the Jet only. Why is that? Do they not intend to fire anything from it? An aircraft contract always includes armaments, spares, training and infrastructure, and these should not be forgotton. My perception of Serbian Contract. 1. Total...
  18. Sapper

    Mirage, F-7PG and other combat aircrafts

    Off-Topic It says F7-PG on the tail, but from its wing, it is clearly not the PG's double delta configuration. Whats going on ??? Regards, Sapper
  19. Sapper

    Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

    Dear, Turbo-props give much more endurance that any jet ever can only hope for. Is 9.5 hr of endurance of Saab2000-Erieye less than 6~7 hr endurance of IL76-Phalcon ? Besides ZDK-03 is also bigger and carries more fuel and might have even more endurance. Just for reference : Indian AWACS...
  20. Sapper

    The Pilot Factor

    Dear, Correction required here: F7PGs fired BVR shots, what part of it did you not understand ? PL-9 and Aim 9 Lima Papas are not the ONLY missiles mated with F7PGs, and all three of these are WVR missiles not BVR. The BVRs fired in excercise by F7PGs are something else entirely, as stated by...
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