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For China I see that their bar is United States. This post is not for rant and just to show progress and how we can set our bars. Pakistan... what will be your bar? I think this question will put Pakistan into a growth path than looking at India bashing as a strategy.

Is Pakistan really what we need to focus. I feel its high time we raise our bars and keep China as the bar and that will be forward looking statement. I think its time for India to delink discussions with respect to Pakistan anymore. World Military Strength Ranking

Please do not insult Einstein

Its the few Chinese here who hate India as their individual interest is in stake with Pakistan. Not necessary that the whole of China is in this view. I expect China to be more responsible and look forward to economic growth and India is also on the same path and there need not be any kind of...

May I jump in here with due respect to all in this thread... thats why very very Muslims in India have extremist link, much less than other religions! I think what the original was intended to be "very few muslims" and also clarifies it with "much less then other religions" My few...

Can we all stop the crap videos and get back to the thread

:( looks like both the pilots killed. One tried to eject just before the crash and was too late and the other was within the aircraft during the crash.

I have witnessed Surya Kiran team doing breathtaking acrobatics and yes this could have been and thrust problem in the engine. Lets wait for the analysis. BTW this team Sagar Pawan of Indian Navy but not IAF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagar_Pawan

To me only B-2 of the USAF is the only beautiful bird of Fighter Aircraft category. All the rest are just similar except the colors and contours. B-2 are the only aircraft in the world without a tail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-2_Spirit Sorry for being off topic. This was just one off...

Oh not again! I think this topic is getting into an overkill. This is exactly what India's position is as to counter quick and decisively on both the fronts and this doctrine is a defensive and not an aggressive posture. I think it is best to lay it to rest and lets move on to current topics.

Looks like there will be an uproar Pak parliament. and I like the ending words of the Ex Ambassador that Pakistan should look for diplomacy as against extremism in terms of Kashmir.

Thanks NSG, for your reply. I did not have access to DD National and even no idea about the footage release. But liked the resolution of the UAV. I thought this was thru night vision camera's and mis-quoted as thru UAV. The only reason for my suspicion is if the angle of the camera is that...

Hi some fundamental question here? Are these really from a UAV...? The angle of these pictures show from ground level. I still have my doubts as if UAV was flown so low? Please correct me if I am wrong.

You are a disgrace to not just this form but the whole scientific community. Dont bother, every invention in this world is being scrutinized by other scientists before bringing it into commercially viable product. Even Einstein struggled to get acceptance for more than a year to get his E=mc^2...

Is there a real basis for this doubt? except for some anti-India ranting articles from across the border.

Pakistan News Service - PakTribune Pakistan backs India for UNSC seat Monday February 22, 2010 (1052 PST) UNITED NATIONS: India’s campaign to secure a non-permanent seat in the United Nations Security Council has received a major boost as 53 nations from the Asia region endorsed its...

Think b4 u post. There is no prob with the MIG's its the good old air craft and its our babus to be blamed. If these aircrafts have been shelved in the right time and new aircrafts inducted we wouldnt be seeing this.

Ahhh! someone here talking sense... after a long time i have seen a post with some thinking behind it. No offence to others. This is a generic statement. Sorry to quote you xuxu1457. Thanks

I also have my doubts if they are tactfully crashing the jets to bring in urgency into the government. But this argument will stand only if the pilot survives.

IAF MiG-21 crashes in West Bengal, pilot safe AF MiG-21 crashes in West Bengal, pilot safe 2010-02-19 17:30:00 Last Updated: 2010-02-19 17:33:27 New Delhi: An Indian Air Force MiG-21 combat jet crashed soon after take-off from Bagdora in West Bengal on Friday but the pilot ejected to...