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You're talking complete shit. Explain... Watch Singapore - Chinese.

You're clearly an idiot - profile, avatar, quote. Elite Member - Elite Idiot more like. SIR adolf hitler - You Dumb Prick.

Agreed - here's a funny thing though, there are more F-35's in the world than Rafale...

The Germans didn't have Glonass (or NAVSTAR) - but they still landed V-2's onto London and Antwerp in 1944. The Royal Navy could defeat the Russian Navy within 1 week, without even putting a surface ship to sea. The Japanese would take 2 weeks to do the same job. Read history... embrace the...

Be warry of poking the 70 year old sleeping dragon - they have full spectrum capability, you haven't - by a long shot.

Engine, avionics and the radar on JF-17 - tell me, who is the OEM for them? As for the production costs and intellectual property for JF-17 - I'm all ears. Do we need to add here that perhaps it's 40% Saudi?

F-35 and Rafale are termed operational - still doesn't mean I'd get in one. JF-17 and Tejas are both fine platforms - but the point that many on here don't like to hear is Tejas is sole-sourced and developed. The JF-17 was co-produced - and the major financier and producer of that platform...

In terms of potential export for the JF-17 - and I remember reading recently Saudi was interested - is the Klimov engine not an issue?