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Save your breath mate. I don't think most Indian posters who post on the Chinese Defence forum care about details. They have their view fixed and will form any response based on that prejudiced view. Just know that most neutrals are impressed with China's progress.

There is no moral high-ground in military development. You can buy, steal, burrow, it doesn't matter. If a country feels aggrieved by IP infringement, then it's up to them to retaliate by sanctions or any other suitable measure, if they feel so strong about it. You only play by the rules if...

Keep the discussion civil mate. No need for the racial inferences to skin colour. I know it must be frustrating to read Indians bash Chinese progress at every opportunity when they gauge China's development against US and Russian systems and deem it to be a failure if China do not meet the...

I think nobody will argue that jet engines is the final missing link in China's fighter jet development. However, the progress China has made in recent years is evident with the newest J-11s fielding the WS-10 engines. The fact that many of the newest J-11s are flying with the WS-10s show that...

I'm not fully convinced this story is true yet as there has been no official statement from the Chinese about this deal. All the noise seems to be coming from the Russians so maybe it's Russia's way of trying to generate interest in the Su-35 for other export markets. Not saying it's not true...

Congrats to India for launching their first indigenous nuclear-powered sub. While I do think India will eventually build nuclear-powered aircaft carriers on their own, this Kakodkar guy in the article makes it seem like India will start building these ships any time tomorrow. I don't think...

Amazing feat if it can be done in the proposed time. I think out of necessity, the Chinese have had to intensify their development in pre-fab construction. If this technology proves successful and stands the test of time and all modern safety standards, then this could have an enormous effect on...

Very true. The US build you up to knock you down later.

It's just a saying mate and that's why I added the modifier of "aim to" as a target for India to reach. You're being way too literal. I hope India can solve their corruption problem.

Nobody is saying the student has surpassed his teacher. What I'm saying is that the student has learned his lessons well and has graduated and can talk to his teacher as a peer. It would be good for Asia and the World if India can rise to the challenge too, and become an independent military...

Def CG. Here is the article the pic is from PLA General admits China developing large amphibious assault ship | China Defense Mashup

CG artist impression of new Chinese helicopter carrier [/URL][/IMG]

I wouldn't get too bothered about the Copy-cat tag if I was you mate. Anybody with even an inkling of military history knows that all countries steal and copy the most advanced technology they can obtain. China has had to play catch up for decades and copying Russian designs is the quickest and...

Not sure why China would need this fighter jet. The current jets they already have and are inducting soon are more than adequate before they eventually introduce their 5th Gen fighters into service. Sounds like russia are trying to drum up hype and interest in their planes. China used to be the...

I think China actually need more of these than conventional aircraft carriers at the moment. Chinese WZ-19 and WZ-10 helis are now in mass production and operationally viable. A few of these new helicopter carriers would be very useful if war broke out with Japan over the Diaoyu Islands, in the...

This move is no doubt in collaboration with the US move to keep out Chinese telecom companies out of the US. Like with the US, China will follow such moves with retaliatory steps their own. In the case of the US-led sanction, China have started to replace American systems from their telecoms...

Good for Pakistan if they can develop these attack UAVs. Would be good to see some prototypes to gauge how far along they have come with their development. I think most airforces will gradually increase their ability in this area so Pakistan are doing well by getting in early.

Some amazing stuff from China. I think China are entering the realm of elite military manufacturers and developers. Congratulations.

LOL I like the sacarsm. I think the average Indian troll's train of thought is that everything the Chinese military makes is badly-made, copied junk and anything the PLA says is a lie. I say the average Indian Troll because not all Indian posters on here are that way but they are harder to see...

If the intention of this thread is to have an informative and objective discussion of the various aspects of these aircrafts, then that's great. However, after reading through most of this thread and threads like this (where Chinese and Indian systems are pitted against one another), it always...