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Facts are: Both me and Zulkarneyn has been part of Gülen back in the days up until 2009, lomg before any split between AKP and Gülen occured. We both never really liked their Dershane's, and we had enough power to leave that organisation when we started in university (no more pressure from...

Is that the only comment you can structure when you have no words left? You're really destroying the quality of this dear section with all your child-level accusations. Even if you were right, it's still miserable that you select to highlight one single accusation over and over again. A real...

Im currently on my phone, but all i can say is that praising words towards Islam doesn't make him pro Islamic person not a Muslim if he has words against Islamic belief - which he clearly has as i stated. I also stated this this man is a man of strategy. He knows what to speak and where. He...

My dear brother, this rate has not changed much since the foundation times of the republic of Turkey. Kemalism has very seldom increased to rates above 30% in the Turkish republic, though they have come to power many times, both due coalitions and coup's. And still in this very day, the rate...

My fellow Türk, these statements are very clear signs of his anti-Islamic views. You have much more. You can also read the full contexts of his words, "Araplarin dini Türkleri mahvetti" is enough. But there are much more. Anyhow, as I stated, I don't give the tiniest fraction of a dime of what...

Thank you for sharing your mind, you really came up with great examples of the controversy fragilities and failures of a secular order. I agree with your points to a very high degree. The question of marrying the best of Kemalism and conservative Islamic values is a rather challenging but...

I don't believe these people you talk about (leftist, non-religious people / Kemalists) were totally innocent. I know that many Kemalists made use of Gülen propaganda against the government, they joined their band-wagon and demonized Turkey as a whole, the president, the government deliberately...

I myself have been in the Gülen movement, back when I had no idea about their political ambitions. During 2001-2009 I was actively living in Dershane, and I had pupils visiting our Dershane twice a week, that I was preparing a daily schedule to. My point is, Gülen movement is much larger than...

Atatürk was surely a man of strategy, he has used many twisting phrases. I don't like to spend time translating them into English, so you can do that work on your own, but I'll share you what he said: "Fakat bu prensipleri, gökten indiği sanılan kitapların doğmalarıyla asla bir tutmamalıdır."...

Headscarf ban in a country with 99% Muslims population? That surely seems as a very secular and pro-Islamic move. Very insightful rule indeed. Translation of Qur'an into Turkish happened long before Atatürk. Turkish language doesn't consist from 1923. Adhaan (Call for prayer) into Turkish...

RIP to all lost souls. Allah have mercy on them. May peace and patience be with their families. Ameen.

valla cok eyleniyorum bu adami izledikce, komedi yapanlar bile bu kadar güldüremiyor beni :omghaha:

Valla bende bilemyorum artik kardes. Amerika dünyadaki tek süpergüc. Illaki onun kurallari gecerli olacak, heleki Münbic'te ve diger bölgelerde üsleri varken.

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Türkiye'de hukuk isledigini mi saniyorsun, heleki o dönemlerde, kanuna göre mi yönetiliyordu? Güldürme beni:omghaha: Her alanda rüsvetcilik, ve yolsuzluk kök söktürüyordu.

@OguzSenturk belliki senin kabul edemedigin sey AK Parti'nin zamaninda Gülene yakin olmasi, ve beraberce balyoz deyip askeriyedeki kemalist yapilanmayi bozmasi. Dönemin askeriyedeki kemalist yapilanmasi o dönemki muhafazakâr kesimlerin evlatlarini bir takim dislayip askeri okullara alinmalarina...

Dinle ilgisinin oldugunu öne sürmedim. Ama eski kafalara göre böyle bir kalinti kalmis kafalarda. Demek istedigim, artik sol ve sag olan partiler zaten bulunmuyor. Her ikisinin karisimlari var. Bu terimler cok eskidi bence, ve bunun kavgasini sürdürmek cok anlamsiz.

Solcu sagci kavgalara gerek yok bence artik. Cok eskidi bu terimler. Solcu dinsizlik sagci dincilik anlamina gelmez, gelmiyor artik. Ak Parti hem sagciligi vardir hem solculugu. CHP ayni sekilde.

Sizinle ugrasacak ne zamanim var ne sabrim. Kücük cocuklar gibi tekrarlayin ayni seyleri, eger gönlünüz böyle rahat ediyorsa böyle düsünün.