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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    So everything can be reconsidered and added/subtracted, provided its your Mullahs doing that? Well, you have raised their status above the book which they are required to follow. And no, its not the duty of the state to bother with these trivial matters. Not people in general but women...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    @syedali73 How come they not ponder over the "except what is necessary part" in the holy book? I mean the peripheral vision, flexible movement, identification requirements and climatic considerations are all severely affected by a shuttlecock burqa. These people claim knowledge of the religion...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    @Azad-Kashmiri Explain me something. Can you see anything in the circle? You think God would bother asking men to lower their gaze if all they are looking at is a black hole- a state of nothingness a shuttlecock burqa? Lets take a pass from chest thumping and praises for Mullahs and return...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    They are, which is wrong. This case is different, they aren't being portrayed as sexual objects (whoever sees it that way needs to clean his inner filth). Marketing works on attracting customers and to facilitate the sale, you think the bearded man selling you adulterated honey is telling you...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    If you look carefully without projecting your inner thoughts onto it, you will find that clothes are being sold, not the women. Secondly, these aren't for you in the first place.
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    And what did you local Mullah tell you about those times in which Hadiths contradict the Quran? Go ahead, enlighten me. You have zero knowledge of the religion to the extent that you can't even cover basics or answer logical questions. All you have done until now is repeat mindlessly or mass...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    @Zarvan Its useless to mass-post from multiple sources if you and your "great" scholars can't even answer a basic logical question. After all, one wouldn't ask his students to study and then command to keep the books away at the next instance? Because that would be illogical.
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    At any rate. I, sir, am impressed with your knowledge. I am aware (very slightly) of the general undertones of Old testament in the religion. Even the commentary of Ibn-Kathir is said to be not free of such, adding elements from the interactions with Jews and their books. So the source to...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    Ironically, it also answers his "even then you should lower your gaze" logic. The most ridiculous of all arguments. The beauty was there to see, not hidden as the Mullah is alleging.
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    Judicial Commission inquiry and findings

    Make one more observation. There can be no double jeopardy (in spirit here). It means that IK or PTI can't pursue this case any longer or again. NS has beaten IK in his own game, politics in general. No sane Pakistani can otherwise ever argue that the elections have been fair. It just doesn't...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    This is without realizing and these Mullahs should hang themselves in shame learning it from us that the orders for the Prophet's family are much strict than the general believers. These people don't have an ounce of idea about context and acceptability of any Hadith. They will rather distort...
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    Judicial Commission inquiry and findings

    TBH, not expecting "any" election to be completely fair in this country is very realistic. Come on, we just cant do it in a civilized manner here. So to a certain extent, unfairness is acceptable, the word may shows just that. Next, the election being not fair is no argument for organized...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    Volume 8, Book 74, Number 247: (Sahih Bukhari) Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas: Al-Fadl bin 'Abbas rode behind the Prophet as his companion rider on the back portion of his she camel on the Day of Nahr (slaughtering of sacrifice, 10th Dhul-Hijja) and Al-Fadl was a handsome man. The Prophet...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    Govt should provide funding to the same seminaries spreading radicalization, extremism and sectarianism? Even when they aren't directly involved in all this, the general atmosphere inside a Madarsa is one of narrow mindedness, rejection of science-wordly education, enmity with the state...
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    Judicial Commission inquiry and findings

    Two things you need to look at. One the sentence uses the word "may" meaning the unfairness of the election is directly dependent on the extent of rigging or unfair practices during elections and it can be a representative whole electrocal mandate even with a certain level of unfairness or...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    Apparently your kind- the Mullahs do. Since they have invented new definitions to very clear verses in the book somehow, going against all logical thinking and practicality. The term "modest dressing" is enough since the religion came for all humanity which has different cultures. Not everyone...
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    When is anything that you find yourself disagreeing with is anything but lies? The definition of modesty isn't to cover everything from head to toe, get a dictionary for God's sake! It is clearly stated what is necessary to be revealed, be revealed and for the believers to not gaze on the women...
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    Judicial Commission inquiry and findings

    And Bani Gala finds itself lacking for a Internet connections somehow? Whats the big fuss? Go download it, its against your position anyways.
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    Moral brigade active in Islamabad again

    Actually for the ulra pure kind, everything modern is an issue. They aren't the part of society? Why do you insist? Next, would we see something about keeping them inside their home because them working is "not preferable"? And then we would see the hue and cry on the fast decline of the...
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    2013 Elections were largely conducted fairly: JC Report

    The key to understanding this verdict is to grasp the fact that the comission doesn't argue that rigging didn't happen, it surely did, however what it states that it wasn't organized or preplanned as PTI alleged for the better part of the year during the futile sit-in. A very severe blow to the...
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