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Both the new F-16 and the MLU will have the APG-68v9 radars.

^^ That's old news and thats the reason the J10 hasn't been fitted with WS-10 (or for that matter JF-17 with WS-13).

There is no AWACS yet and you are already data-linking BVR missiles to it :lol:

We can't say anything until we know for sure what is on the FC-20. Apparently, the radar, the weapons, navigation system, etc will be different from the J-10 so we do not know how good these will be except that they should be better than the current J10. If it has an AESA radar, a good EW...

Nobody knows for sure what is in PAF's warehouse, and those who know will surely not let it out on a forum. whenever testing time has come, Pak has never been found sitting idle. When the time came, we had our Nukes; then the time came, and we had more sophisticated and very capable...

Saad sahib, its not even worth the effort. Nobody with a basic knowledge of aircrafts can even argue that JF-17 is 3rd gen except people who believe only what they like to believe. Interesting, I have read this 100km range for Grifo before but couldn't find a reference. I would be interested...

Haha..nice one! But as mentioned above, there is no difference in terms of technology on the MLU or the blk 52, so in that case whichever comes first. PAF would really like to have all of them. Why would I take any offense... I am not an American and I also do not have much (read any)...

Here's the online link to the source of the above information: http://www.foreignaffairs.house.gov/110/wie091608.pdf So here you go, that's the complete deal and that's the details of of Sept. 2008. The only thing about a delay being mentioned is the MLU but not on the new blk 50/52+.

The third LOA provides for the Mid-Life Update (MLU) of their current fleet of forty-six aircraft: four of these aircraft are in Fort Worth undergoing Trial Verification Installation, which is part of the MLU program. Under the MLU LOA, Pakistan is procuring Falcon STAR structural upgrade kits...

"The second LOA provides for munitions and includes: - 500 AIM-120C-5 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM); - 750 Mark-84 2000 lb General Purpose bombs; - 700 BLU-109 2000 lb Penetrator bombs; - 500 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) tail kits; - 1600 Enhanced Guided Bomb...

The program for the new blk 52 is as follows: "Pakistan presently operates forty-six F-16A/B aircraft. Thirty-two of these aircraft remain from the original forty aircraft that Pakistan bought in the 1980s. Since 2005, the USAF has transferred fourteen Excess Defense Article (EDA) F-16A/B...

Since many questions have been asked repeatedly about this, and many doubts raised. I decided to open a new thread on this. I have posted some of these information before, but they get buried in the pile of posts and people ask it again and again. Hopefully, they will serve as a comprehensive...

The program for the new blk 52 is as follows: "Pakistan presently operates forty-six F-16A/B aircraft. Thirty-two of these aircraft remain from the original forty aircraft that Pakistan bought in the 1980s. Since 2005, the USAF has transferred fourteen Excess Defense Article (EDA) F-16A/B...

I am afraid you have got it all wrong. PAF did NOT order 70 F-16 blk 52 at all. PAF had negotiated for F-16 blk 52+ but actually ordered only 18 of them because of earthquake in 2005. The rest (one squadron) is an option if PAF wills, but PAF did not order them. In short, as of today, PAF has...

They are just two ends of the same coin. From the way I see things, either we will become a stronger ally and get both MLU and blk 52 or relations between US and Pakistan would almost dwindle to the lowest ebb and we won't get either. I am talking about the short run, or the time by which...

I wish I could answer you, but the only guy who can tell you is one with the technical knowledge of how both of these work, whether or not US will allow it, and if both the above are good then if we can buy enough of them, considering we only bought 18. In simpler words, I am afraid I have no...

We do not have any AWACS or AEW&C at the moment. There is a SAAB training one that is being used to train the PAF crew. Deliveries are to begin from mid of this year(IIRC).

PAF Selects Lockheed Martin Sniper Advanced Targeting Pods for F-16 The U.S. government has awarded a contract to Lockheed Martin [NYSE: LMT] for 18 Sniper® Advanced Targeting Pods (ATP), a part of the new Advanced Block 52 F-16 aircraft program for Pakistan. Pakistan is the eighth...

Thales’s RBE2 AESA Radar Successfully tested on Rafale NEUILLY, France | Thales announced today that its RBE2 active electronically-scanned array (AESA) radar has successfully completed a new series of tests on the Rafale at the Cazaux flight test centre in Southwest France from February to...

Another part of the equation is the J-10 or FC-20. While the JF-17s are in our hand, we have all the source codes to program and re-program them and maybe they will end up using western equipment, etc. The FC-20 might not end up being linked to an Erieye, so the Chinese AWACS are more of a...