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    Question about Aircrafts coming to PAF

    I am afraid but that is wrong. Yes we didn't take on the 'full production' of the aircraft for economic reasons, but we still manufacture components of it like I said (front fuselage). The assembly line was decided against not all manufacturing. PAC still produce(d) the front fuselage. K-8...
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    Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

    And who told you that? I have posted every little detail about the F-16s on this forum yet we have people believe whatever they want. Please do your homework before spreading rumors.
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    The only statement we heard sometime in 2008 was that PAF is interested in a twin-seater and development is focusing on that. No possibility. Prototypes will be developed that will undergo flight tests first. No chance before the second batch of JF-17 or 2011.
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    Fifth Generation Plane Era! Is it really going to be so?

    I think in the near future stealth---as employed in the F-22---would cease to remain as a mode of choice. EW and ECM would take its place and you can create virtual stealth which would possibly be more powerful and far less costly both in development and maintenance. Ofcourse the counter to that...
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    Pakistan UAVs News & Discussions

    India voices concerns over drone sale to Pak NEW DELHI: Indian External Affairs Minister S M Krishna has reacted to a possible arms deal involving sale of US drones to Pakistan. Krishna has emphatically told America that an arms sale would create instability in the region adding that in the...
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    In my opinion, the first things they will/should do to the JF is increase the number of hard-points. This should come as a result of increased thrust on the 'improved RD-93' to somewhere near 90-95kN which had been rumored before when Russia formally allowed the re-export of the engine. That...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    I don't want to offend anyone here but please keep Allah out of this. This picture is a photoshop job just in case some people fall for it.
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    There's no such thing as a twin-engined JF-17. Its just fan-boyism.
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    PAF Fire Power 2009

    A little bit--for example JF-17 has a TWR of 0.99 --in the normal way you calculate TWR but ofcourse it always carries 2 wingtip missiels (and if the improved RD-93 is used, even more) but when you are doing these kinds of maneuvers, you do not go with a full tank so figure out a greater TWR...
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    K-8 (JL-8, L-11) Basic Jet Trainer

    I agree with you. In addition to that, and correct me if I am wrong, PAC Kamra manufactures part of the K-8 airframe (fin, tail,etc roughly about 25% airframe) and they are sent to china where they are assembled and then re-imported. PAC/PAF decided against having an assembly line for the K-8...
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    Islamabad: The Centaurus Corporate Complex

    Latest updates You can see the complete development history and lots of other skyscraper projects in pakistan and around the world on this site. Source: Skyscrapercity.com->MehfilPakistan
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    I don't think a couple of pictures are enough to verify that. We have to wait for some new videos once the squadron is formed. Smoke can easily be missed in pictures especially some of those pics seem enhanced.
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    ^^ you're right----sorry for the typo.
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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    JF-17 09-110
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    The two points to which I responded with this were 1. Its the next generation after F-22. Even the video mentions that its the next generation after F-22. Yes it is just an experimental plane that will not go into production but the technologies developed will--whether on a manned or an...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    Here you go -- Its the X31 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell-MBB_X-31
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    The next gen aircraft (X35?) is being co-developed with Germany. Even the lead test pilot is a german.
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    PAF Air Refueling Capability

    In addition to what Murad Sahab said I would like to add that when you take off, you use full afterburners-- something that consumes huge amount of fuel. So if you want your plane to be in the skies for some time, you need A2A refueling. As the ACM said in his recent interview to janes, PAF...
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    Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions.

    Anything about JF-17 that we do not know already?
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    Interview: Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Pakistan Air Force Chief of the Air S

    Where did you get that from? Its true that there is nothing new in the interview but atleast there's confirmation of previously known facts. Not every single interview has to have something new. Thanks Fatman for the post :cheers:
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