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  1. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    The answer to the first question will explain everything. I wonder if anyone could put together information such as where Abhi crashed, where the heli crashed, and what were the timings, then we could discuss it more. What we know so far for sure is that IAF CAS was launched. It could have been...
  2. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    I have seen the un cropped picture, there is also part of the wing and power lines visible. All I will say is that I'm glad the picture was removed. Hopefully something like this doesn't happen in the future.
  3. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    Agreed. I had to think about this for a while. And it does make a lot of sense. That Pakistan wouldn't even make the claim if the Su 30 had managed to land. Pakistan as the defending party doesn't have the luxury to make false claims. We are already outnumbered as is. Can't afford to lose our...
  4. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    True, if anyone knows its them after the IAF. Keeping in mind that radars are not infallible in a mountainous environment. I also don't disagree with your OP. I do however find it a little tiny bit odd that they didn't release that information officially, as there isn't much value to keeping...
  5. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    Cool info man. If you watch the interview towards the end the air commodore explains that there is a data exchange that was happening between the missile and the plane and it suggests a kill... idk
  6. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    To me this would simply be one of the potential outcomes. What we know for sure so far is that the AIM120 connected, and sent back data to the F-16 confirming that connection. We also have visual confirmation of that in the form of the IAF being good boys and showing us the proof of what we did...
  7. ummarz

    Two Indian Army Soliders Killed in South Kashmir

    Good job men! You held true to your honourable ways. This was expected after India illegally revoked the special status for Kashmir. Officially turning the Indian Army into occupiers and valid targets for all oppressed Kashmiris. Too bad Pakistan doesn't materially or financially support the...
  8. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    The reason @PanzerKiel posted that cropped picture wasn't to prove the Su-30 claim, but rather to prove that some Indians are so blinded that they would even deny reality even if its in front of them. Let's leave it behind. The objective was achieved and point proven.
  9. ummarz

    27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

    Your agenda is amply clear when you are looking to debunk before even knowing the data. You are not here to learn..
  10. ummarz

    6 Terrorists killed in Balochistan during OP

    Yeah I saw it the first time, lovely picture. So far we don't know much. We don't even know if that heli was used in the op or not. If it was, perhaps it was used for a variety of reasons such as command and control, fire support, transport, but it will not cause the kind of damage we see on the...
  11. ummarz

    6 Terrorists killed in Balochistan during OP

    I don't think Bell's carry the type of munitions that would cause diffuse explosive burn marks. These as far as I know have a high speed machine gun only.
  12. ummarz

    6 Terrorists killed in Balochistan during OP

    Not sure about their reliability but they are probably guessing from the damage seen on the bodies. Could be Mi35 or could be a drone.
  13. ummarz

    Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

    The word successor is used to describe an entity that succeeds its predecessor. By your logic, the #16 on your list, The British Empire, would be the successor state of all previous ones...
  14. ummarz

    Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

    Uday you have not improved at all from the last time we chatted. This is very disappointing. I will help you out. This is an excellent book to start with, you will never see the world the same again. Its available on the kindle store too, so easy to get. Let me know once you have read it...
  15. ummarz

    Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

    Thats not how it works lol.
  16. ummarz

    Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

    Uday you are clutching for straws. And what you end up with is conjecture.
  17. ummarz

    Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

    Because the word India carries a lot of baggage with it. Complicated history. Lets just say Alexander fought a Punjabi king, that's who Porus was. This is something both Indians and Pakistanis can agree on. Because otherwise its tough for modern day Indians to claim Porus as Indian. Porus was a...
  18. ummarz

    Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

    Historic India is not equal to modern India. The name India (or Hind) in history was attributed to the lands of modern day Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, and various other countries. A word that correctly describes historic India is Indian subcontinent. Punjabis, or any Pakistani for that matter...
  19. ummarz

    Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

    Why should a Punjabi who has always lived in current day Pakistan, who's ancestors never lived in any part of current day India claim to have Indian identity... ? They can however claim to belong to Indus Valley civilization. What the historians or ancient empires attributed to India in the...
  20. ummarz

    6 Terrorists killed in Balochistan during OP

    Could be the auto canon on Mi 35, or its unguided rockets. Most likely got hit when they were running.
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