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And only the those who pore their hearts and soles deserve this reward. Shaahadad the highest honor and in my opinion the only way a muslim should die.

i just seems to big and bulkey to be used pratically. The Korean weapon system is better. Modern Firearms - Assault Rifle - ADD / Daewoo XK11 K11 dual-caliber air-burst weapon

That is organized. But if Indian fighters comes in to our airspace with weapons and without our permation (not that it will ever happen) then everyone knows there will be consequences

It also said this was part of a pland attack

I have to agree with you on that one. We can just pray that we do get them though. We have paid a lot of money already for them.

Not sence our birds have been in the air

I would love to see both of these birds in Pakistans service in the military. Now my only question is that is the T-149 a midium lift heli? Because if it is than it could peobably replace the Puma's that we have for so long.

Man its like an entire second air force they have over there. Wow and those are just some of how knows how many. But the coolest fact about all of them is that they can all be called back into service if and when needed.

NO WORDS CAN EVER BE SAID TO HOW MUCH WE OWE THESE SOLDIERS AND OFFICERS OF PAKISTAN THAT HAVE MADE THE ULTIMATE SACEIFICE FOR OUR COUNTRY. ALL I CAN DO IS SOLUTE, SOLUTE, SOLUTE :pakistan::pakistan::pakistan: MY BROTHERS WHO DIED DEFENDING OUR GREAT NATION.

I agree. No country has any right to strike us. We can handle our problems are are doing a very good job at it. If you strike us like General Musharraf said "we will strike back" period. And I dought any Pakistani would question that.

Man they really added some serious detail in the model JF-17 by adding that cockpit that is awsome. Thanks for the pics

Fristly I would like to thank everyone who has been participating in this form. You have all brought a great amout of knolage and ideas and made this into a very interesting discussion. I also am glad people are bringing in other systems into the discussion. So thank you all:agree:. Also it...

Very cool. Very impressive

Well someone has done their homework:) But on a serious note you are correct. One can indeed go for something like the GDF twin 35mm oerlikon or it Chinese counterpart Type 90. Trully though I must stick with what Iran has made though. Yes it has its drawbacks but it is still a great weapon system.

Again very well said Penguin but my question to you is: Can every nation afford the German SPAAA Gepard? YOu made an excelent point with out a doubt but not every nation can afford such a high tech system. Iran is a country along with a few others that can provide a cheap and affordable...

Well if we do go for air-defence distroyers we should stick which chinese and incorperate type 54 technologies like the Aster 15 and 30 missiles and different radar systems.

I do agree with you on some of what you are saying. In this case comparing a 100mm with a 30mm. My only thing is that an aircraft can retun to base when hit by 30mm cannon if the aircarft and pilot know how to menover in the right way. Like in the Golf War and AC-130, A-10 and other aircrafts...

I am glad you brought that up Penguin. I was looking at the video and saw some resemblence of the mussle and certain parts but was not completelysure if it was the same gun or not thanks for that.

Exactly not to also mention the new s-300 systems