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i doubt that ! we wont see altay in 3 years. Goverment will wait for the Presidential election for the decision and then maybe june july they will order. It will be at least one year to set up the factory and get ready for serial production and another year to finish first 60 tanks so 2020 we...

Lets stay on topic. We take 3 village today so thats good. I hope we do the same by taking south eastern villages in Bab. There are reports that Isis send more T 55 and T 62 to Al Bab.

Vay arkadaş gavur ilan edildik iyi mi ? Ekran klavyesiyle yazıyorum beyler biraz insaf :)

Benim aklıma gelen bir ism var paylaşmak isterim. " Türkiye İç İşleri Yönetimi " yapsak daha iyi olmaz mı ?

@KediKesenFare sorry bro somethimes i get confused :) you are right hopefully we got al bab and move east. By the way if you take a look at the map Saa opened a new front against Isis at the east. Looks like we are cooperating with Esad under the table.

what did you mean by that ? Work with Pkk somehow ? or move towards them and expell them from west of euphrates river?

if we loose al bab we must retreat towards aktarin zone !

what makes you say that ? we are moving towards al bab

why those turrets are different shape than each other ? arent they decide which one they are gonna use in serial production ?

@Attila the Hun @T-123456 Thanks a lot guys i cant sleep now. ( Not that it is your fault ). We need Atatürk more than ever !

Biz bu hallere nasıl düştük ! Yazıklar olsun. Iraq , Syria looks like Turkey is next then !

How can you even say this ? all we need is one victory thats it ! i dont think it is to late we just need to commit to this cause let turkish people whats at stake they will fully support this operation. we need to bring 50k troops and if we got kobane and tel abyad this autonomy thing will be...

Well if what you say is true then how the fack that Turkish goverment support such endaevours ? i mean i know Erdoğan is a puppet sure but this ? I dont know my blood just boiled when i read your reply we must , we must stop this ! i dont care how many soldiers die but we must stop this !

I will start ; Nope !

You think in the end assad will accept the autonomy deal ? Iran also refuse autonomy deal despite the fact that they are seeing Pyd.

As you know there is a constitutional referendum due in April so i wanted to asked fellow Turkish member to reply here to see what do Turkish people think about the new presidential system. Also please simple reply " yes " or "no" @cabatli_53 i dont know i broke the forum rules but this is...

Look who will stop kurds then ? russians today asked regime to give autonomy to kurds ! they are becaming to powerful we must go to manbij at least

we f@cking lost suflaniye again ! "Sulfaniyah village is back under ISIS control after strong counter-attack today vs Euphrates Shield forces." http://isis.liveuamap.com/en/2017/25-january-sulfaniyah-village-is-back-under-isis-control

@cabatli_53 is this kaya or cobra 2 ? also do you know kirpis or cobra 2's unit cost ? How much for one vehicle ?