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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Are you trying to debunk this history because Song Shi was compiled during the Yuan Dynasty? I would agree that the Song Emperor is to blame as much as Wang Anshi's reforms. What chapter are you on? Have you read the whole thing?
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Then we both have the same sources with different interpretation on the collapse of Song. From your understanding of reading Song Shi, do you see Song Dynasty being as strong as the other Han Dynasty? Don't you see Wang Anshi's reforms as being the turning point for the collapse of Song? I...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    I wanted you to see the perspective from a Chinese person, rather than coming from a Vietnamese person to see if you still continue to provoke an argument. It seems that you don't have that much faith in your history.
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    The more you type, the more you show others in this forum how little you really understand about your own history. I recommend that you re-visit the Song History from the year 1065-1127 before claiming that you have "debunked" your own history book. For a different perspective of this era, I...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    It seems you really like to argue. Perhaps you should reread the first two sentences of my post regarding this reforms again. I suggested that we analyze Wang Anshi's reforms together, in order to find how his reforms may have lead to the collapse of the North Song. Base on your replies, it...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Wang Anshi's reforms may have saved a lot of money to allow Song to build a large army, bigger than its predecessor. However, Song's large bureaucracy was unable to adjust to its new policies. With constant, unnecessary campaign to annex Dai Viet in 1075 which lasted until 1077, follow by the...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    From 伐宋露布文, we can see the name Anshi. This was written in 1075 by Lý Thường Kiệt. 天生蒸民, 君德則睦. 君民之道,務在養民. 今聞, 宋主昏庸, 不循聖范. 聽安石貪邪之計, 作青苗助役之科. 使百姓膏脂涂地, 而資其肥己之謀. I still believe that Wang Anshi's impulsive political reforms caused the Northern Song to collapse. Spending so much money within a...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Don't be so arrogant and naive Cherry Picker. I would say that Qin standardized the characters of writing used by Viet and Han at the period, since both were under its rule. Base on current archeological findings, Son Vi Culture and Bac Son Culture are the originator of working tools, while...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    To find the answer to your question. I propose we analyze this all together. Wang Anahi was relieved of his duty in 1074 and move to Jiangning, modern day Nanjing as a governor. He returned in 1075 for a second term as prime minister of Song and stepped down again in 1076. His reforms fall...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Hi Nihonjin-San, I think this is an Asian trait. Not just in Southeast Asia. We eat using chopsticks, except for finger food. Picture of Japanese family eating on floor. It's spreading towards the West.
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Cá kho tộ eaten with canh chua is the best !!! Là tuyệt vời !!!
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    @Viet got me reading up on Jennifer Chung. Lý Thường Kiêt also wrote the below in the year 1075. 伐宋露布文 天生蒸民,君德則睦. 君民之道,務在養民. 今聞,宋主昏庸,不循聖范. 聽安石貪邪之計,作青苗助役之科. 使百姓膏脂涂地,而資其肥己之謀. 蓋萬民資賦於天,忽落那要离之毒. 在上固宜可憫,從前切莫須言. 本職奉國王命,指道北行. 欲清妖孽之波淘,有分土無分民之意. 要掃腥穢之污濁,歌堯天享舜日之佳期. 我今出兵,固將拯濟. 檄文到日,用廣聞知. 切自思量,莫懷震怖...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Map carved onto stone dated 1137. Each block represent 100 li.
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Lý Thường Kiệt is regarded as a great military strategist by Vietnamese who fought off the invading Song army in the year 1075. Could you tell me how many troops were sent by the evading side and what was the poem that he wrote?
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    There are ugly sides of war that may not be appropriate for the conservative way of thinking of the era to be taught to children in school. However, there may be other documents for military and government use that may go into greater details of the event. You sound bitter. Please keep an open...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    This article of a first person account was very informative since this was before my time or I wasn't there to witness it, although, I did hear of this from my parents. I hope to have your views once we get through the ancient wars with China to the history of the Vietnam War. Thank you for the...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    I think I may have commented on this in my previous post. Below is a good article that may give you a better explanation to why there are myths in History. The Use of Myth in History : The Colonial Williamsburg Official History & Citizenship Site
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    With all due respect, ancient histories are filled with myths. I am just being polite by not pointing them all out. Chinese imperial historical documents and philosophical canons such as 禮記, 太史公書, 書經 and 呂氏春秋 all contain myths. You of all people should know better. Please respect ours as we...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    It seems like Vietnamese History Forum is moving on smoothly. We have covered some main events here from the creation myths to Hung King, to The Trung Sisters and now Ly Dynasty. Arguments are healthy as it creates a better understanding for both sides.
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    It is good to see the views of both sides.
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