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Yeah, I heard that the Chinese were so unimpressed with how inferior the Su-35 are compared to their indigenous fighters that they actually decided to buy them fully knowing that the Russian's export models were of lower capability than their own domestic ones, imagine that! Mind boggling stuff...

Agreed, sooner or later people will realize that the person in question is plainly full of sh*t, because anyone who keep spinning things and spewing bullcr*p will eventually contradict themselves. Any person with an ounce of intellect can see through the mumbo jumbo of hearsay and...

And because stealth coating isn't easy then we shouldn't buy the F-35 as what the person whom I quoted insisted?

https://www.beritasatu.com/nasional/528665-batan-kembangkan-cat-khusus-anti-deteksi-radar

What words did I put in your mouth? Did you not said it yourself that there's a correlation between the huge new Annex in the US embassy with us moving closer into US sphere of influence? Not your words, huh? Yeah, I'm obsessed with debunking unsubstantiated bullshits.

As a hub for intelligence gathering in the region since the Jakarta embassy had sufficient space for that purpose? I highly doubt the notion that your trying to spin about how the size of a country's embassy represent how tight the diplomatic relations of that country is with the host nation...

I was under the impression that South Korea was looking for a partner in the KFX program and they invited us to join, and then our answer should be "no thanks, we wanted to produce your F/A-50 locally instead"? Are we looking for aircraft design technology or aircraft manufacturing technology...

What is my interest exactly? I thought I've made it pretty clear that my interest doesn't include foreign defense companies, and neither the local ones for that matter. Yes, I'm against any simplistic and non factual notions about how arms and military equipment from a certain bloc are always...

To expand the T/A-50 fleet we already have? With the potential arrivals of more Su-35s and Vipers (and now Typhoons, perhaps?) then surely we'll need more LIFT jets before moving the pilots on to the front line fighters.

Pardon me, when I said "foreign defense contractor" then I should have said "foreign defense company", as what I was trying to convey has got nothing to do with a person's nationality. It would have made no sense for us to procure the FA-50 unless we plan on replacing the Hawks with an...

When we decided to join the KFX program, we didn't do it just to get our hands on their capability as fighter jets now did we? So why are you focusing only on those aspects of the KFX program? When we joined the KFX program, we were not buying fighter jets, we were buying fighter jets...

Nah, I had always read this forum to get the latest military info on Indonesia but previously had no real urge to post here. I found most posters here are generally casual enthusiasts and all about sharing and discussing. But when someone is CONSTANTLY spinning a certain agenda, well let's just...

That's because I don't usually post in internet forums, but when I do it's because I was trying to help people to understand, and to shed a light on something glaringly obvious: a cunning salesperson trying to spin his agendas to the masses. Why? Because the fairy tales you're spouting are...

Seething about proving how hypocritical you are? Right. LOL. Not that it mattered much, since all of us have got you figured out from day one. A sideshow who constantly yapping and trying to convince people that: Russian arms = bad Korean/Asian arms = bad European arms = bad, except certain...

Don't flatter yourself, I'm just having fun making everyone see how you constantly spin things to serve whatever agenda that you may or may not have. Cheers.

Yet you didn't have any gripe about the idea of getting more F-16s or F-15s from the boneyard then refurbish them which technically are also "used equipment", did you? Or does American equipment not count?

That "dent in the short term" will cost billions of dollars in initial acquisition cost alone, tell me how much of a "dent" will a squadron of a western equivalent twin engine fighters such as F-18 and F-15 cost us? Please elaborate. Then how much will the lifecycle cost be? How much will it...

First off, saying things sarcastically is not ad hominem. I'm just placing you in front of a mirror and you didn't like it. I didn't go into details because you also sidestepped relevant details which did not support your point of view and always jump into conclusions. Secondly, you're somewhat...

Sorry, actually I was trying to answer Chestnut's post but misquoted yours instead, that particular post has since been deleted so please consider this as a correction. And no, we shouldn't fix a leak by throwing more water (money) down the drain. If indeed the Flankers are hurting our budget...

Before doing your usual Russophiles tirade, know that I'm not a Russia strong fanboy, just a neutral observer with common sense in mind. I can understand this Russian equipment averseness IF we haven't bought any Russian arms in the first place, but since we ALREADY bought the Flankers, operated...