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Both are 4.5 platforms, F-15 Silent Eagle being the most advanced variant of them all in fact. ALso it doesn't really matter when the first variants came out as the F-15 also has undergone significant structural changes as well as addition of AESA radar, newer engines (as seen in the F-15SG...

What are you laughing about? Do you support India's oppression of Kashmiri's through rape, censorship and firing at protesters? Always quick to hold Pakistani's to a high standard but more than ready to brush cancers like RSS and ethnic cleansing riots under the carpet known as Indian democracy.

Yes there is a large portion of Pakistani's who do as there has been much contact between Uighurs and Pakistani's in our history. Just because GoP takes orders from China doesn't apply to the rest of us. I support East Turkestan all the way mates. Can't speak for the larger "ummah" as I am not a...

If Uzbeks are paid mercenaries, who are Taliban? Volunteer workers from the YMCA ? You can't trample all over the sensititivies of a legitimate ethnic minority in Afghanistan by equating it to something so criminal and sinister as Taliban. If it wasn't for all the Pakhtun terrorists in...

No not for places where 4x4 is a requirement. I think it looks garbage as well. Remember you asked something that can't really be quantified. Expect to get different answers. For the streets of most of Pakistan it is fine though I would drive it. Seems comparable to Corolla.

Bangladesh must have a lot of money to spend. In either case newer batches of F-15 are better aircraft than the SH. India and BD are being had. Go for F-15's :P

A little off topic but it would be amazing to me if the Chinese were playing red vs blue force with regards to the RoC issue...totally infiltrated the U.S. no wonder they speak of state espionage. :P

J-10 will end up the same way. It will be integrated in the future with some other western component. 36 foreign bought J-10 vs. 200+ partly produced in Pakistan I think investing in JF-17 is warranted unless the second option is to completely disband it now that we have learned how to make...

xdrive it will be hard for your point of view to come across as anything but abrasive here with so many members from China. As much as I am critical of many aspects of China I can safely say that we don't need to trample on their stances or feelings towards Taiwan (ROC) Republic of China issue...

Actually no, it will still be a very low cost fighter. If this aircraft is to be exported, you can bet there will be at least two versions. Such repeated news only tells you of what PAF thinks about Chinese avionics but going for French aircraft poses a greater deterrence for Pakistan in the...

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Why is China scared that Taiwan will get Patriot batteries? Isn't Taiwan a sovereign state that can decide from where she can purchase goods? Does Taiwan and the U.S. make a storm every time a Flanker blueprint goes missing in Moscow?

In these calls for legislation, there is no distinguishing factor between "Hijaab" and "Burqa". Moderate practicing Muslim women lose rights in the same manner as the fully veiled types.

Is it pertinent to bring Zaid Hamid in every discussion? Every time I turn my head I read his name. I have no idea why people take him so seriously in India, the guy is an armchair theorist that trumps even most internet participants. He's making a quick buck, I heard the guy has mansions in...

I think someone here is jealous of French aircraft. :wave:

Would be an excellent choice for many air forces that I can think. For PAF it would be long overdue and many can argue it makes no sense anymore, but in reality the whole thing is sweetened with the dash 9 standard being part of the picture. I am sure the hours on the airframes are not an issue...

No matter what the Americans are accused of, there is no other institution that has single handedly eroded Pakistan in all manners than GoP.

Are you telling me something? Work for the zionists :lol: we can all but dream eh chap? ;) I thought you guys wanted cold hard "facts".

^^ MiG 29 doesn't have FBW. I quote a Soviet pilot loosely, "FBW makes an average pilot great. But it makes a great pilot average."

I don't think this PAK-FA will be anything that future systems will not be capable of hitting of. For now though all Pakistan really needs is something in the capability of S400 system to deter any aerial threat.