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    our politicians need to get rid some mindset which says we were pretty girl contested by 2 stud, those behaviour need to be ended, everyone needs comitment
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    because switz have mature politics and backed with well educated civil society, another example is singapore
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    it could be nexter, NG Group = Nexter or Naval Group
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    what is it? could not see it, having a bad internet connection
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    it doesn't matter, we can defeat lioning gangs with kcr 40, remember the men behind the gun motto
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    from my perspective reduced time meeting for a negotiation indicates both parties agrees each other by principal, details can be communication in lower level, I hope I'm wrong
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    other possibility is buy japanese hulls, fill it with euro system (mbda+therma) everyone got their share
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    let's hope so
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    how about you give us f35 access, then we allow your p8 fly in our airspace
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    my own conclusions after read some post there https://www.def***talk.com/military/forums/t/indonesian-aero-news.9220/page-77 Croatia offered some secondhand rafale
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    did you read something in def***talkforum, its quite make sense if the US reject our request on lighting, I think f35 request only to please some faction in dephan/TNI, not as a serious need for dephan to arms the airforce with lighting when our mindef go to US, and the 2nd strong man in the...
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    any other pictures?
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    if hawk upgrade had similar with RAAF upgrade then it will be good path for pilot conversion for using F35 https://www.australiandefence.com.au/news/bae-completes-hawk-lifcap-upgrade
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    intermezzo news https://news.detik.com/berita/d-5198365/mobil-dinas-tni-yang-viral-dipakai-sipil-atas-nama-purnawirawan some boomers strike again, perkoncoan tanpa etika or just personal debt consention well still a corruption then...
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    https://finance.detik.com/berita-ekonomi-bisnis/d-5193372/kementerian-prabowo-dapat-anggaran-rp-137-t-ini-pesan-sri-mulyani program dukungan management still biggest component, I wonder imo it's still to big just for komcad?
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    September has ended, and nothing new about osprey
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    we NEED to flex our muscles beyond 200nm EEZ, that is a must, our next advisary not some jaguh country anymore, so ocean going assets is a must have for us the first thing to have subs is for detterent effect, with ocean going SSK its mean we have one ability for power projection outside our...
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    this article seems writen mixed up, at first she write about prabowo feels cozy with Chinese altought the real situation is opposite,then she write about MoD proquirement including avoiding CAatsa then she write about prabowo chance in presidential election, some kind of rubbish writen by...
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    our chief minister again?
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    those japanese have bigger balls than those who we where waiting from Europe, kudos to them
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