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How come we havent seen any pictures of the block 2 jf-17 yet, if it has an aesa and irst and refueling probe, these techs must have been tested and the aircraft would look different, but we havent see a thing yet and we're supposed to be getting these planes this year. I know the Chinese are...

I am one of the scores of Pakistanis who grew up hearing of the greatness of the f-16 and it has a certain aura in our nation...so naturally people, including the military leadership, get carried away whenever they are offered. A great aircraft, the very definition of multirole, produced in...

Iranians have become the kings of chest thumping, and that too with little reason. In the remote chance that Iran has discovered a way to detect a stealth aircraft from a sizable distance, the fact that they just told the world about it just ruined any ability the radar would have to affect an...

Honor killings are wrong in every sense of the word, and if one needs a religion to tell him/her that, then that person has far great issues. People need to realize that religion is not a walking, talking person that gives us orders...it is a guide to higher enlightenment that is not in any way...

Once again I envy your ability to articulate our failings and our hopes and dreams. I hope you are right and enough Pakistanis are willing and able to stand up against the direction our country is being pulled in. Our culture is very important, and the differences we all have are worth...

I still dont understand why the f-35 is so far overweight? These are the same people that developed the f-22 which has superb air to air performance. The f-35 engine is quite powerful so for the aircraft to still seem underpowered is kind of shocking.

The more posts of yours I read Muse, the more disturbing I find the sad reality that the insight and awareness you and others of your ilk present is so utterly lacking in the general Pakistani populous. The lack of direction is such a fundamental flaw that it prevents Pakistan from being a...

Isnt the idea that Pakistan didnt act, if we knew Bin Laden was hiding within our borders more disturbing than Americans killing him covertly? If Pakistan did know, why down play it, it is time to pick a side...if we want to head towards a moderate nation that values humanity over extremism...

Wow, after reading this thread, I feel really...dumb. I just graduated with a b comm. in Canada and at no point did I pull off marks of that sort. Having completed my degree, if I were to retake all the courses, I stttill wouldnt get marks that high...and I thought I was intelligent.:frown:

People generalize too much. Some muslims have become so indoctrinated with this "us against the world" view that hating jews is a great way for them to avoid focusing on their domestic failings. Everyone is human in the end, just like their are jews supporting the actions of the Isrealis, there...

Why is historical perspective and hindsight the only way we notice when horrific crimes occur on this earth. Every decade there are a couple of genocides and we shove them under the rug or live in denial...only acknowledging them when someone puts together a sad little montage of what happened...

Man you deserve an award, storm force...you have 1500 posts, and like 1450 of them say the same thing...we get there are short comings in our country...actually...considering Pakistanis have actually llllived in Pakistan...they may even understanding things better than you do...but ofcourse...

ummm...thats a snow leopard...a separate species from both the tiger and the leopard. What was the thread about again?

This is the sad reality of human nature, people find it far easier to be polite and accepting when they themselves are the ones in a favorable position...but when a person is forced to accept a negative thing, they struggle with the very concept. These type of exercises happen very often and...

It has become crucial for Pakistan to reign in the Army, for once, the public opinion has, itself, turned against the armed forces and chances like this dont come often. The civilian leadership has a chance to do something drastic that would not be opposed by the people and would, more...

ahh...the treatment of women as mere objects and toys in a man's world continues...education and awareness can do wonders for brainless ideology that leads to these very heinous acts.

I cant believe this thread is still going. There are enough people verifying this happened so Im sure it did happen. But all air exercises have all sides fly in different scenarios and in the WVR aspect, the PAF pilots came out on top...there were only 3 engagements...that is a pretty small...

That is PSed, I think a couple of weeks after it came out, a real pic of this serial number jf-17 was posted and it had the standard PAF camo and tail.

Oh wow the hypocrisy of our army. It was the respect that allowed the Pakistanis to support endless aggressive actions by the army against its own people, it was this respect that allowed Pakistanis to support Pakistani conflicts against India, where our brave soldiers were massacred, it was...

This is becoming more and more obvious...the war is, in my opinion, is just reaching its height...for Pakistan, it is only now the general public and the government has realized how big a threat these terrorists are to our own future and the ISI has much control as the neighborhood police...