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Any pic of actual WS13 nozzle?

Will have to see both nozzles side by side to determine accurately (RD93 and WS13)

It is without the radar.

And now they will start to analyze changes in centimeters and millimeters with a vernier calliper. AESA radar might be the ONLY major impactful change in Blk3.

How can you guess the engine from this pic?

If major changes are internal then this welcome photo would do little to reveal those. Cant even tell if there's an HMD or not.

A jao saaray 'experts' ... 'Minor changes' analyze krnay. Bismillah

No more hardpoints I guess?!

Any new capability or new design/concept validation?

I see the fighting in the above comments for and against Dr. Moeed. You can only marvel how forgetful we as a nation are. Pakistani NSA is no where near an Indian NSA in terms of decision/policy making power and influence on PM. Our foreign policy and PM is effectively controlled by one single...

Quite a stupid one liner tbh. It's not about my family members (which you totally understood but with a lack of better response intentionally decided to stoop to stupidity). They and many others are a reflection of the culture in the services. Incompetence is attributed to those who are sub-par...

Look, that's the reflection of that mentality! 'They must know their stuff but they dont share with us' ! Bhai nahi pata inhen! bohut so ko kuch nahi pata aur oonchi kursi pay bethay huay hen. Incompetence is a Pakistani trait, and that covers both the civilian and military officers. My...

Even with expectations lowered, the mind wasn't ready for missing HMD/HOBS in Jeff blk 3. That IS quite a let down. (If true) With that I understand that many on this forum are going to defend even if CAC/PAC merely roles out a newly painted Blk2 as a Blk3. 'The PAF knows what's it's doing'...

IMHO, this thread should be temporarily locked till the actual Jeff blk 3 pics are officially released. Everything that could have been said, speculated, rumored, thought, wished and explained about Jeff blk 3 has been exhaustively discussed on this thread over and over again. There's nothing...

A huge number of people in Pakistan will be happy with this. For many different reasons.

Guess the yanks did a better job than PAC when it came to advertizing the JF-17.

Skills are important but a good university goes a long way to get you placed in a good position. There are more than 120 engineering universities in Pakistan, it's no coincidence that all top notch indistries only hire from Nust, Giki, Lums and UeT Lahore.

As I said, a few people still do get into defence orgs but we're talking about the vast majority.

Thanks. Given that most people enter universities to get a good job, IST is not a good option. Except for a few defence orgs, IST is still unknown in the industry. Hardly any industries know or recognize an IST's graduate's worth. And IST administration has no plans (still) to make this better...