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    Milgem's new Corvet - Made in Turkey

    I don't see any program or plans in that regard. Developing a fighter plane from scratch is a very costly business therefore I regard the chance that Turkey will rather join joint development projects like the JF35 in the future. Secondly next to the cost you have to be able to design at very...
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    Milgem's new Corvet - Made in Turkey

    Dear Mark Sien, I am absolutely not opposed to the idea of JF17 I am only trying to look at the matters objectively. If the advanced version of JF17 is to be ready by 2015 then Turkey will already have received the first F35's. Secondly all F16's of Turkey are currently in a modernization...
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    Milgem's new Corvet - Made in Turkey

    Replacement for the F-5 is not an option since Turkey doesn't use the F-5 as a fighter aircraft but as a lead-in fighter (trainer aircraft). Turkey has upgraded the avionics of the F-5's with HUD and MFD's to serve as advanced lead-in fighter. I was thinking more in the lines of backup...
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    Milgem's new Corvet - Made in Turkey

    I don't know where you gathered the above from but it is completely false. First of all the Milgem and F-100 are completely unrelated designs, stronger F-100 is not even designed yet. Secondly it is also not an extended version of the Milgem and third you say the F-100 will serve as a...
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    Milgem's new Corvet - Made in Turkey

    Actually the idea of JF-17 ain't so bad at all, IMO Turkey should take it into concideration. There is only one thing, does the JF-17 really belong to Pakistan with all it's rights or does China have the rights?
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    Hello, what ever you read on WAFF most of it is guesswork. From various Turkish defence sites one can gather that the TF2000 is most likely to become a ripp of from the Korean KDX III destroyer but nothing is certain since the whole project is a military secret. The head of the SSM (Turkish...
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    Milgem's new Corvet - Made in Turkey

    Pics of the first Milgem ship, construction of the second ship started two months ago.
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    No, sharkskin coating is just experimental and secondly the submarines do not need more speed but more stealth. Turkish R&D programs concentrate more on radar absorbing materials and de-magnetization of the hull, the Milgem is getting a degausing system to de-magnatize the hull and may be...
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    Dear Asaad-ul-islam, The best is ofcourse to master all the technology and build ships/submarines from scratch. In this way you can make the optimum custom made design. On ship technology Turkey has progressed quite far but on submarine technology we still need to learn a few things, thats the...
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    The development of various subsystems have already been started up, about 20 subsystems. Aselsan works on torpedo jammers: Torpedo counter measure system: Other systems are flank array radar, UUV, PAP ROV, sonar
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    To decide which is the best one has to look also in the field of application. Each country has different problems, the enemy to counter, the depth of surrounding waters where the sub shall operate etc. etc. So to say boldly the Scorpene is better than U214 or the other way arround is walking on...
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    Pakistan's acquisition of the U-214

    Unfortunately yes, in aircrafts we will stay dependent since we have no technological alternative to build our own but on all other fronts Turkey is working hard to reduce dependency as much as possible. Especially the navy and landforces are key priority areas.
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    Pakistan's acquisition of the U-214

    Something what most people disregard is the tactical advantage to have similar weaponry with allied countries. This tactical advantage goes to both Turkey and Pakistan. Suppose having the same type of ships, same type of submarines with similar layout than it would take only to paint your...
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    Pakistan Navy inducts Karrar into its fleet

    It's MRTP 44. The MRTP 44 is a longer and heavier version (44m) of the MRTP 33 (35m). The MRTP 70 is only a design concept of Yonca Onuk shipyard. The shipyard is willing to design the MRTP 70 if there is demand, but the Turkish navy has not shown any serious interest unfortunately.
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    Pakistan Navy inducts Karrar into its fleet

    According to the Turkish defence magazine S&H Pakistan is in negotiations for the larger MRTP44 which will carry either a 40mm or 56mm gun.
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    To begin with I understand that Pakistan is currently in a bid political and also economical turmoil. This is sad to hear and wish you a quick recovering. In many terms Pakistan resembles my country, you are trying also to improve / modernize your army with insufficient funds and you struggle...
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    Milgem's new Corvet - Made in Turkey

    F100 and Milgem are complete different projects, there is no any plan to make the Milgem longer and call it F100. The F100 frigate program is planned after 2020.
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    Ofcourse there are more reasons behind, I said one of the reasons! The latest Milgem photo, the hull construction seems to be finished and in 10 days the hull will be floated on water.
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    Pakistani navy and the Turkish navy exchange a lot of their respective experience. While Turkey was evaluating the 3 candidates during the tender it was natural to ask the Pakistani collegues about their experience with the MESMA equipped Agosta90B submarines. The Pakistani feedback on the MESMA...
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    Pakistan's Submarine Procurement

    One of the most essential parts of the new generation submarine is her AIP powerpack. From Pakistani navy sources we have received some unsatisfactory about the Mesma AIP on the Pakistani Agosta90B subs. The MESMA is not performing as effectively as it should like DCNS promoted it. On the other...
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