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Hellfire is certainly not bad, but quite expensive. One should not only look at the acquisition costs of a fighter plane or helicopter, but also at the operating costs over the next 30 years. Big purchases like fighters and attack helicopters are strategic purchases that form the backbone of...

AH-1Z king cobra is certainly a good chopper, no doubt. The only problem though is that the US did not even give Turkey the right to install her own mission computer and source codes (that's why our ATAK-1 tender flopped and had to be cancelled). If Pakistan doesn't mind restrictions on her...

The T-129 is expensive for Turkey, nearly $60mln per chopper but that is because of the costs of production facilities, development and certifications which are calculated in the price. Export choppers will become significantly cheaper, slightly above half of that price. On performance...

The simulators are not a replacement of life fire trainings, but a tool to keep crews updated, teaching them different scenarios and battle techniques. The aim is to get the crews to the best training standards possible, with various threat environments simulated.

Artillery Forward Observer and Fire Direction Center Simulator Simulation system for training forward observers and joint call for fire. Training Capabilities: •Creates scenarios with static and moving targets on various terrain views, •Target determination training of observers...

I am following from while to while the discussions here and enjoy it. I don't want to enter discussions of are Chinese or Russian or Turkish frigates / corvettes better. All of them have their own values. What I want to point out is that neither of them would be as good as an indigenous...

What does an Al Khalid tank cost? Does anyone know?

Although it is much to early to talk about it since Pakistan has not received any Perry yet, are there any brainstorming about upgrading them? It sounds like a contrast but even the old Perry's have more powerfull radars than the lately received Chinese frigate. With a few additions the Perry's...

Excuse my ignorance but why is Musharraf so disliked? In Turkey we got always the perception that Musharraf was a good leader for Pakistan, did the media fool us?

Thanx Taimikhan Type 517 Radar (long range air search) range 300km A-band, as far as I know this radar can only detect something is out there, no recognition, no tracking capability, no IFF but in the A-band you can probably even detect the stealthy F-22. Type 363 Radar (air search)...

U-214 is basically a U209 with AIP. The non-magnetic hull has pro's and con's. Pro: Non-magnetic hull doesn't need extra installations like a degaussing system Con: The Germans use the non-magnetic hull because the North sea where they use them is not so deep. The steel for non-magnetic...

Maybe not a pool but the US has at least 2 more at hand since Turkey refused the offer. Turkey primarily wanted to replace 2 of her older Knox class frigates with 2 additional Perry frigates but changed mind on the unfavorable US offer. Instead Turkey accelerated the construction on the planned...

A quick update on the Pakistani submarine acquisition delay as much as I know about. The delay in the negotiations seems to be mainly caused by financial issues. Purchase of 3 U-124 costs around 1.2 billion Euros. Pakistan wants the payment with a longtime credit of 20 years while the German...

First of all I wan't to congratulate the Pakistani navy with the new frigate. Can anyone make a shortlist of the capabilities (specification) of this frigate? Like weaponry used, torpedo's, radars their types etc. + what kind of battle management system is used? A second question is does...

The Turkish attack helicopter program makes more sense IMHO, not because the Tiger is bad or something but the Tiger is more intended for the flat planes of Europe while the T-129 with enhanced powerfull engines is specifically for high mountainous grounds. From memory I would recall that...

I think the most logical for Pakistan would be to join the Turkish attack helicopter program, receiving a maximum of tech transfer and unlimited access to install own developed avionics etc. My 2 cents.

The Turkish subsystems that will be integrated into the U-214TN Havelsan-Submarine command-control center, softwares...(GENESIS submarine version) STM- Submarine modification design, Engineering and system integration Aselsan- Electronic support systems, Satellite...

I'm afraid the answer is no! Look just by assembling under license one doesn't get the ability to design a ship with hundreds of subsystems. In the 80'ties Turkey thought the same to acquire knowhow by assembling Meko frigates, but the hard reality was we did not. The milgem corvette is the...

Turkey is signing so it won't take long to see also signature from Pakistan.

We have cooperation on - UAV's - Armored vehicles - Shipbuilding - Fire arms developments (riffle, howitzer, tank) - Military educations (pilots, battle strategies etc.)