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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    When will you stop with your wordplay? If you try to use couple of brain cells you can figure it out what I meant. It does concern Koran and Hadith. Islam speaks for itself through em’ which doesn’t need any interpretations. Even from a neutral perspective, Ahmadiyya is not this dynamic...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Your understanding of the reference is so short-sighted, I wonder why the hell I am even debating with you. Another FYI for you, MGAQ has rejected hadiths which are treated authentic by the others.So you treat this hadith as literally then be prepared to accept all of them or none of them.
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Don't get involved in that whole orthodox vs. unorthodox nonsense and it’s a waste of time and energy. Declaring them non moslims was a political move more than religious but the reservation raised theologically are vaild. Jammat was given a fair chance to prove their POV and Khalifatul Masih...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    it refers to salat not believe. its from Book 8, and complete hadith goes as Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    To understand the main beliefs and teachings of Islam/Quran, literal meaning is enough. Refer the verse about no compulsion in religion. But apparently to understand qadianism, exemplification is essential to figure out complex metaphors. Without it, ghulamiyah cannot be rationalized...
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    In defence of the uneducated

    Our literally illiterate may be socially liberal but are politically conservative. they are statist, safeguard their economic hegemony but pander to liberal discourse in blogs and english dailies. They do not vote, curse the people who do and the people they elect. educated elites cannot...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    One cannot simply invent a concept and associated it established religion . All independent as well as Islamic schools rejects the notion of Zilli and Buroozi or mera chand tera soraj or full prophet or half prophet. Please refrain from giving long convoluted answers which leads to nowhere...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Ahmadi kalima on Ahmadiyya central mosque, Nigeria, Jammat e Ahmadiya declares Muslims as Kafirs. I think it's probably slightly doctored, or a fake. I have not seen a proper, independent verification of that photo and it makes quite hard to believe. Moreover that image is...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Allama Anisul Hasnain was the shia scholar, who did his ghusal and namaz-i-janaza which was attended by Yousaf Haroon, Hashem Raza, and Aftab Hatim Ruzvi.After the private funeral, his body was later handed over to the state and then the Sunni Deobandi Alim Shabir Ahmad Usmani lead the...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    The founder did call himself the prophet and his jammat acknowledged it way back in 1900s. Cant understand what you are trying to establish.
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    The dominant openly declare the founder to be a full prophet; the latter, either by conviction or policy, to propagate an apparently toned-down Qadianism.
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Do I need to say anything more. Qadianism is divided into two camps. whats the difference btw the two?
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Stop trying to score brownie points. NEWFLASH...there is no such thing as a Ghair Tashriyi Nabi (non-law bearing prophet)! Check the Quran!
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    7 Wonders of Pakistan - What do you think?

    Paradise for offroaders Hingol National Park is the largest national park in Pakistan. Declared national park in 1997 owing to its ecological and biodiversity importance. Stretches over 600,000 hectares, it including both terrestrial and marine species , the first and only protected area...
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    7 Wonders of Pakistan - What do you think?

    Hinglaj Mandir or commonly known as Nani Mandir on the Makran coast highway, Balochistan . it’s about 270 or something km north-west of Karachi. If anyone want to visit the best time to visit is month of April when there is annual festival when pilgrims from over the world comes here.For me...
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    Pakistan Plans Sukuk Bills to Lure Gulf Banks: Islamic Finance

    I dont know what they are thinking. we don't have efficient bond market in place due to the lack of macroeconomic stability and non existent strong social and institutional environment. Before floating these instruments in the market SBP should first establish strong infrastructure and knowledge...
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    Vengeful new militant group emerges in Pakistan

    Suffocation fans would have a good wank to this.P
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    GoP and IMF are Resposible for load Shedding

    speculating on topics riddle with dynamic consideration always ends with something incoherent and misleading. Media and bloggers shouldn’t go shooting their mouths off and pretending like it’s so freaking easy. We would all be better off if we just ignored these clowns.
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    GoP and IMF are Resposible for load Shedding

    By any stretch of imagination that’s not possible. Building dams, nuclear reactors and use of renewable energy doesn’t come cheap and will only accumulate in expanding the circular debt. Unless GoP deals with the economics of power generation by addresses the core issue of growing circular debt...
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    Ahmadis in Pakistan

    Inequality is not a new phenomenon; it has been a focal point of our history dating back to pre partition days. Highlighting isolated incidents of discrimination against minorities can never bring the issue to resolve. Well all need to dial back a notch in our attitudes because we are too...
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