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    JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 2]

    Looks fake to me
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    Zaid Hamid's Article on Urdu News

    Would request someone to please translate this for the rest of us!
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    well, perhaps not that scholarly, very much argumentative rather than evidence based.
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    I'd have to go against the general view here. I think M2Ks would make great Air Superiority fighters. Not for perhaps, lower level turning "ambush" style air combat as has been something of a trademark of PAF's doctrine and useful in the Northern reaches of Pakistan, but, more of a high altitude...
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    qsaark, wonderfully well done. Thanks. Of course you haven't put in all the various possible combinations and variations and tiered decision trees possible, as well as the varying levels of confidence intervals for each individual on their decision choice. And what is mutually exclusive and what...
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    A few dozen M2Ks are probably not the price for freedom and equality If PAF doesn't get the F-16s, and the JF-17s & J-10Bs turn out to be duds, with a worst case scenario of teething problems, bugs, low quality, sanctions from China (:D), only then would there be a dire need for M2Ks for...
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    Countering Cold Start - Coming up with a Holistic Strategy

    The purpose was to post something from the "other side". Instead of complaining, you should post some high quality stuff, I think that would be more useful than a 30 second comment post.
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    Who knows? maybe PAF can get them for free or at bare minimum costs? I say anything around $10 million would make it worthwhile. Recall that Indonesia was offered 10 of these birds for free. Araz, new infrastructure would be needed. However, the country PAF would get the M2Ks from (Qatar or...
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    Countering Cold Start - Coming up with a Holistic Strategy

    Turning out to be a personal diary. Why the lack of interest? A piece by an Indian writer: INDIA’S NEW COLD START WAR DOCTRINE STRATEGICALLY REVIEWED INDIA’S NEW "COLD START" WAR DOCTRINE STRATEGICALLY REVIEWED by Dr Subhash Kapila Introductory Observations: India unveiled...
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    Lets not forget Brazil, Greece, Egypt and Peru. taiwan may be politically not possible. All would potentially want these Mirages.
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    Countering Cold Start - Coming up with a Holistic Strategy

    Here is an article by Air Commodore Tariq M Ashraf that highlights the threat of Cold Start to Pakistan. This will perhaps get the ball rolling here. Doctrinal Reawakening of the Indian Armed Forces
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    Countering Cold Start - Coming up with a Holistic Strategy

    Fellow Members, I thought it would be a worthwhile exercise to pool our collective intellect together and come up with a strategy to counter India's Cold Start Doctrine. Please feel free to comment, analyze and post articles here. It would help me immensely in writing up a possible doctrine...
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    Just for everyone's info and to clear a confusion, M2Ks are completely different planes from Mirage 3/5s. They do not use the same parts. They are a generation ahead. Any more than JF-17s are going to use F-7 parts..
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    very good and thought provoking post. If we are to look at the high-tech end, we'd have J-10s, Mirage-2000s and F-16s. Then we have JF-17s, F-7PGs and ROSE Mirages. In my books thats just too many planes. Further, M2Ks will come with their own maintenance equipment and spares logistics train. On...
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    Bangladesh Today

    haha exactly what was going through my mind the other day (but not seriously obviously):cheers:
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    Mastan Khan, my apologies to you. I did not mean to offend you for sure. I am not privy to the details of how foreign intelligence agencies managed to make these deals not work, would humbly like to hear about them from you. Also, Pakistan could not buy F-16s directly from GD but had to go...
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    Brother, thank you for your response. Let me say that I have no guarantees for any body for any thing. I am afraid I do not see where you see me making guarantees for anything brother, i would suggest you review these thoughts a bit in your mind and i am sure you will see that everything...
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    New color scheme of PN PC3s

    I think its rather nice. I wish more planes had fancy artwork on them.
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    Pakistan's Mirage 2000 Saga

    I think this has been a very good discussion but there are in fact, many separate topics being discussed and this has caused some confusion. let me state these topics: 1. Why PAF did not acquire the M2Ks during the 90s. 2. PAF's ability to understand commercial aspects (Mastan Khan's Warrior...
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    Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

    The problem with a WS-15 would be: 1. That it is a whole new generation and far more ambitious than the WS-10, surely would either have teething problems in service or would need time to work out all kinks 2. The need for it to be fitted into the J-10 would take time and $ 3. Would China be...
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