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^^ This is an 'enemy' telling you- where did people learn to hate so much? if even a significant minority of Pakistanis - Sunni or Shia- think like this, Pakistan is stuffed. But then, merey baap ka kya jaata hai, i.e. what goes of my father?

True, but for various they are what they are- an occupying force.

As much as they adjust, consciously or sub-consciously its hard for such a people to consider it 'their police' or 'their army', or ultimately 'their nation state'. Although I think all of us in the sub-continent can relate to the uneasiness with our police- they're never there to help us, but...

So far it's worked brilliantly. However, I am not sure whether new elites are emerging in that country, the levels of dissatisfaction, etc. We'll see how they evolve going forward. But yeah, there's never one model for success.

Let me put it this way: IMO, at this stage of human evolution, a stable democracy - if you can get it- is a great way to keep everyone interested in the nation state. The Kemal/ Turkey model also works, but it is rarer to find that exact blend of culture, appropriate military dictator, economy...

Yes, plus a core common history, religion, tradition but beliefs are also theoretical, even though very important. Then the fact that there are diverse elites who're 'not in bed with each other'. Political, military, business, judicial etc. However people may detest Mulayam or Laloo, they...

That makes it even harder on the 'nation state' concept. If no new elites are allowed to develop, frustration and anger agains the systems are almost a given.

Yes, and I'd say that the answer to your questions also lie in the very part that you've quoted from my post: Just flip it and ask yourselves, how and why the concept of 'nation state' has competed reasonably successfully with other concepts, in India, and much more so in the west.

This is a good question if you believe that the Pakistani elite is on the losing side. In my opinion a nation state (a model not more than a few hundred years old out of our thousands of years of recorded history) is nothing more than a group of people who "buy-in" to the concept. The concept...

Well, he's going in the right direction them. In my opinion.

Muse, while I want to stress that I do not disagree with some of his conclusions, I see some flaws in Mr. Hilaly's article. The first is - leaving aside its context for the time being- from the point of view of logical argumentation. Look at the structure of the article. He describes a few...

Ok, that makes a heck of a lot more sense.

My opinion too. I am not sure I agree with people here when they say (assuming I read them right) that IA's LGB, along with the arty, were decisive against PA combat troops on the mountain tops. From what I have read arty- and direct fire at that- was the decisive battlefield factor...

I used to think that Kargil was brilliant in its execution for the following reasons: 1. The fact is that PA managed to fool Indian intelligence over a sustained period of time into thinking that the NLI troops massing across the border (and preparing to go in) were irregulars. Thus, even as...

No. Many of us care. Their blood is red, as is ours. They are no less innocent than our dead. I mourn them also. Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'un.

Clear and massive intelligence failure. A core objective of this attack is to radicalize Hindu Muslim relationships in Hyderabad, and extend that to all of India. I pray we do not give the perpetrators of this ghastly act that satisfaction.

RIP. I mourn the dead. I thank Pakistanis who also mourn with me. Your condolences are much appreciated.

Wait, mid-70s? This is a different timeline from the one given earlier where they said that the proto- Kargil plan (so to call it) was a response to India's gambit in Siachen. A key objective of this plan was to threaten and choke off the Siachen supply line. If the Siachen angle is true...

Just read this. Not sure if I believe that anyone can escape through an airport these days by simply 'bribing a porter'. That just sounds like a ridiculous cover up.

None of this makes him a bigot; at worst he can be accused of not seeing the future clearly but even that is too high a benchmark. Who could see the future 40 years hence? Anyway on topic, you also said: I agree. Based based on what I've read the LeT is already too big, not exactly a state...