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If we're talking about a serious debate, I don't think so. Historically, the US has taken steps to assuage Indian concerns, but I doubt if the Indian leadership actually expected them to fight our battles. These are just games of realpolitik that everyone is playing- the US, Pakistan and...

These are as much your problems, hoss. But you're only looking at the 'Indian element' to indulge in good old American 'narrowthink'. The last time they were someone else's problems, and y'all walked away from the game in the region, 9-11 happened. But, hey, what you learn from past...

Really....so, based on your remarks, it's ok if I nitpick with your misspelling of use of the word 'canteen' to make a general point on your literacy?

You don't much understand the armed forces, far less backpacking, do you? Perhaps designer shoes with a tasteful colour co-ordinated weaponry would have been better?

Wake me up when there's one Muslim party in Pakistan.

Any link? Wouldn't mind some 'time pass'.

@dabong1, thanks for your patience. Here is my reply. No problem it was the least I could do, given how much time you had spent on it and how clearly well written it was. Thanks. And ok, I am all ears. dabong, do you have a neutral source for this contention? This is very disturbing...

Thanks for the explanation. Your analysis looks very interesting. May I respond tomorrow? It is late night where I am (presently India).

You ascribed to me an alleged 'insecurity' out of the blue- that's getting needlessly personal. "Maharaja the fag'? What kind of a debating style is that? You're only condemning your own argument. As for his killing 2 lakh Kashmiris in one go, I have no idea. Please quote me some adequate...

If you are capable of only personal attacks, I will not waste my time debating you. For now I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. Do you understand 'out of context'? The poster I quoted dragged in India and IA's alleged crime in 1947 on a thread devoted to the barbaric eye gouging of an...

I haven't quoted you in full so I don't take more bandwidth than necessary but be assured I have read your entire post. What do you think, the massacres of 1947 were done only by the evil Hindus and Sikhs, while your Muslim ancestors were pure as the driven snow? Have you bothered to read...

This has been a long established tactic of the dominating powers. I was reading a memoir by an ex-KGB spy (I think it was Victor Cherkashin, but am not sure) which had a description of how the KGB were training Sri Lankan troops and Tamil LTTE militants at the same time, in the same camp...

For my money the finest western 'modern/ popular music' vocalist of the last 30-40 years. His vocal range was mind blowing.

I believe Saeed will continue to be be a headache for India but not as much as he could be for Pakistan and its elites. Look at it this way. This is a man who effectively controls what must be one of the largest private armies in the world, who is also simultaneously running a huge political...

I can't get over the fact that forummers are fighting over their respective politicians. Politicians guys! The ultimate haramkhors with very few (these are there) exceptions. In both countries. Tomorrow you'll start fighting over your countries' thugs, rapists and conmen. :lol: Thank...

I hope you know the difference between an allegation and an incitement to murder. As for being scared, that was just friendly advice. If you are a student or businessman planning to go abroad, or already abroad, this could be a lot of trouble for you. Bur do what you wish.

You do not get it. You're opining that just because one soldier in SF can go in mufti under certain conditions, everything goes. No, it does not. The logic used is that traditional armies hold themselves (or should hold themselves) to a certain standard based on clear norms.

I made the point about SF myself in an earlier post. It's a page or so back. But what is 'massive numbers'? I doubt if they were regiments operating together? That's a stunning statement. We're not talking about operational secrecy, we're talking of rules of warfare by civilized armies...

What are some established examples of large scale units fighting operations in civilian clothes that were accepted as justified and 'proper'? IIRC, Army units have fought on one side or another in wars not their own- for example Germany and Britain in the Spanish civil war. But it was hardly...

Good and interesting point. I had thought about it before making my first post on the subject, which is why I had said: But yours is a valid question. To me special op teams in mufti against 'non -state elements' in territories under their civilian control is fine. Special op teams in...