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  1. Grand Historian

    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Sigh,really you should be more courteous obviously you are deeply troubled by what I wrote. I have already told you Mongols used Jin soldiers in their campaigns in Baghdad and conquest of Southern Song even "Han" generals such as Guo Kan,Qing directly incorporated Han Chinese into their banner...
  2. Grand Historian

    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Seems like I hit a nerve,petty insults won't do anything to help your credibility. "China" was split in to XiXia,Jin and Song on the eve of the Mongol conquests,Ming had already fallen into shambles before Wu Sangui allowed the Manchus to enter. Neither one of these conquests would not have...
  3. Grand Historian

    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Vietnamese members on this forum have been claiming that Southern Han Chinese that we are brainwashed and Baiyue people how is this not a mark of nationalism. Face it, after living in the shadow of Chinese civilization inventing a past that predates the Chinese is a source of pride. It seems...
  4. Grand Historian

    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    I don't think it takes a genius to realize that the Warring States are Chinese,no one ever viewed Zhao as semi barbaric unlike GouWu,YuYue,Qin and Chu. Yes Qin unified Northern China however to say China existed then is ridiculous,there was the previous Zhou and Shang which are recognized...
  5. Grand Historian

    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    1. Attaching a haplogroup to an ethnicity or language is ridiculous. These haplogroups existed prior to the modern identities of Baiyue or Chinese. O1a and is also found Koreans,Mongolians,Uighurs and Japanese that doesn't mean they're descended from Baiyue people. If a Han Chinese has a...
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    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    Viet(the member),it doesn't matter if your people commemorate the Hung Kings,there are plenty of temples dedicated to Shennong or Huangdi yet no serious Sinologist claims the Three Sovereigns and Five Augusts were real. In the 1900s the existence of the Shang dynasty was doubted and Shiji was...
  7. Grand Historian

    History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

    After browsing through this thread and many other similar ones on the internet, the inferiority complex of Vietnamese nationalists is blatantly obvious. I will list several agendas that Vietnamese nationalists try to propagate. 1.Southern Han Chinese and Northern Han Chinese are genetically...
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