More than 350 Pakistanis are languishing in US jails: report

[Diggy]

More than 350 Pakistanis are languishing in US jails under allegations of various offences, ranging from terrorism to violation of immigration laws, revealed a document issued by the Foreign Ministry in response to questions by a senator.

According to the documents, a copy of which is available with DawnNews, 104 Pakistani citizens were serving prison sentences whereas 253 Pakistanis are under trial.

Majority of the prisoners were in jail for violation of immigration laws while others were accused of terrorism, theft, burglary and fraud.

Dr. Aafia Siddiqui, a Pakistani scientist, was sentenced to prison in 2007 for attacking US soldiers. Khalid Awan was facing imprisonment since 2006 for assisting an Indian terrorist organisation, Shehwar Mateen and Abdul Naseer were imprisoned for allegedly planting a bomb, revealed the report.

The ministry presented a list of the prisoners, along with the nature of allegations levelled against them.

The report clarified that as soon as diplomatic missions are informed about the arrest of a Pakistani national, immediate consular access is requested and the relevant mission remains in contact with the national in prison and detention centres.

The ministry also claimed that regular consular visits are also arranged, adding that the missions also provide possible legal assistance, if requested.

"Most of the under trial prisoners/detainees usually sign a waiver at the time of their arrest surrendering their right to consular access with the intention to exhaust all possible legal avenues to stay in the United States even after completion of their sentences," the report said.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1331469/more-than-350-pakistanis-are-languishing-in-us-jails-report

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Only 350 out of 550,000?

 

[cloud4000]

"Most of the under trial prisoners/detainees usually sign a waiver at the time of their arrest surrendering their right to consular access with the intention to exhaust all possible legal avenues to stay in the United States even after completion of their sentences," the report said.

Rather be in US jail than returning to Pakistan as free men. This is saying something.

 

[TMA]

Only 350 out of 550,000?

Are those 550,000 dual citizens or JUST Pakistani citizens?

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Are those 550,000 dual citizens or JUST Pakistani citizens?

Pakistani diaspora in the US.

 

[takeitwithyou]

"Most of the under trial prisoners/detainees usually sign a waiver at the time of their arrest surrendering their right to consular access with the intention to exhaust all possible legal avenues to stay in the United States even after completion of their sentences," the report said.

I'm a fella that picks up on nuances and irony in articles. A while back a few Pakistani guys here were debating me on international norms and practices of providing consular access to foreign nationals, saying it not done so for terrorism acts. Would not believe me. See, we give consular access to Pakistani alleged terrorists(as per the article- states what crimes are also included) too

 

[Areesh]

I'm a fella that picks up on nuances and irony in articles. A while back a few Pakistani guys here were debating me on international norms and practices of providing consular access to foreign nationals, saying it not done so for terrorism acts. Would not believe me. See, we give consular access to Pakistani alleged terrorists(as the article says about who are in our jails) too

Well if those guys were serving officers of Pakistani military present in USA on a fake passport and working with many different terrorist organizations, then I don't think USA would have provided them consular access either. In any case we won't give any consular access to such kind of individuals since there is no reason for that.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Well if those guys were serving officers of Pakistani military present in USA on a fake passport and working with many different terrorist organizations, then I don't think USA would have provided them consular access either. In any case we won't give any consular access to such kind of individuals since there is no reason for that.

We have several Russian serving officers given consular access. Besides the argument was about terror act, not passport fraud. Anyways, it's moot now.

 

[Zee-shaun]

Do we have stats from other SA countries, specially India and Bangladesh to compare?

 

[jetray]

Do we have stats from other SA countries, specially India and Bangladesh to compare?

ah, wondering why ppl have not dragged India into it. why? would that make a difference to your compatriots languishing in jails.
Will that alleviate their suffering in any way.

 

[Zee-shaun]

ah, wondering why ppl have not dragged India into it. why? would that make a difference to your compatriots languishing in jails.
Will that alleviate their suffering in any way.

I had seen the news in mornings newspaper, didn't bother to read it. But your compatriot finds it interesting enough to post it on a Pakistani forum and you wonder why India is not dragged into it?
Let's have the stats from both countries so we can have a meaningful debate. Hope you're not afraid to be shown the mirror.

According to the latest available information with the MEA, more than 6800 Indian Nationals are lodged in foreign jails. More than half of them are lodged in jails of the Middle East nations. Indian nationals are in jails of 72 different nations.

Out of the all the Indian nationals in foreign jails, more than half of them are lodged in jails of the Middle East nations. 1696 Indians are in jails of Saudi Arabia followed by 1143 in jails of the United Arab Emirates. Nepal is third with 859 Indians in its jails. Kuwait has 434 Indians in its jails. Malaysia has 356, United Kingdom has 356, Pakistan has 230 and USA has 188. All in all, Indians are lodged in jails of 72 different countries. More than 100 Indians are lodged in jails of 14 different countries. Only one Indian is lodged in jails of 14 other different countries.



This number could be more because many western countries do not share information about foreign nationals who are in their jails due to the strict provisions of their privacy laws. The information available with the MEA is gathered by Indians Missions abroad.

https://factly.in/many-indian-nationals-lodged-foreign-jails/

 

[Zee-shaun]

Rather be in US jail than returning to Pakistan as free men. This is saying something.

And what does it say about the 188 Indian nationals in US jails? Please bless us with your wisdom.

 

[Spring Onion]

whats the big deal??immigration rules' violations landed them in jail. a normal thing

 

[jetray]

I had seen the news in mornings newspaper, didn't bother to read it. But your compatriot finds it interesting enough to post it on a Pakistani forum and you wonder why India is not dragged into it?
Let's have the stats from both countries so we can have a meaningful debate. Hope you're not afraid to be shown the mirror.

According to the latest available information with the MEA, more than 6800 Indian Nationals are lodged in foreign jails. More than half of them are lodged in jails of the Middle East nations. Indian nationals are in jails of 72 different nations.

Out of the all the Indian nationals in foreign jails, more than half of them are lodged in jails of the Middle East nations. 1696 Indians are in jails of Saudi Arabia followed by 1143 in jails of the United Arab Emirates. Nepal is third with 859 Indians in its jails. Kuwait has 434 Indians in its jails. Malaysia has 356, United Kingdom has 356, Pakistan has 230 and USA has 188. All in all, Indians are lodged in jails of 72 different countries. More than 100 Indians are lodged in jails of 14 different countries. Only one Indian is lodged in jails of 14 other different countries.



This number could be more because many western countries do not share information about foreign nationals who are in their jails due to the strict provisions of their privacy laws. The information available with the MEA is gathered by Indians Missions abroad.

https://factly.in/many-indian-nationals-lodged-foreign-jails/

strawmans argument , he posted news from ur country's newspaper.
read my comment again , instead of getting into jingoistic tirade.
"would that make a difference to your compatriots languishing in jails.
Will that alleviate their suffering in any way."

 

[cloud4000]

And what does it say about the 188 Indian nationals in US jails? Please bless us with your wisdom.

Probably the same thing. But the article wasn't about Indians in US jails, so why did you bring them up?