Govt. refuses to pass resolution condemning Israel

[Kiyani1995]

Israel is the strategic ally of India. How can india condemn israel?

 

[Kiyani1995]

Really? Iran? Saudia? You are slave to them because of oil and gas.

 

[wadi79]

The decision forced Opposition to stage a walkout in the Rajya Sabha. The Opposition continued demanding for a resolution even as External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj said that the government has not changed India's foreign policy on the Palestinian issue.

The Gaza issue was debated in Rajya Sabha on Monday for three hours as a short duration discussion. Replying to the debate, Sushma said that the government wanted to send a message to both Israel and Palestine that they should accept truce proposal offered by Egypt.

Sushma rejected the demand for a resolution and pointed out that the Rule under which discussion was taken up does not provide for any resolution.

Following the minister's rejection for a resolution, Deputy Chairman of the Upper House P J Kurien said the government has not agreed for a resolution and both sides were also not able to reach a consensus on it. Though the Opposition members staged a walk out, the BJD and AIADMK MPs remained inside the House.

Sushma r recited the poems of renowned lyricist Sahir Ludhianvi to stress that the government has not sided with Israel and it was interested in seeing ceasefire in the region.

Reacting to Leader of Opposition Ghulam Nabi Azad's allegations that the government had failed to take action on time, the minister said India reacted to this development on July 15 itself in the joint statement of BRICS.

Sushma informed the House that diplomatic relations with Israel were established by India in 1992 when P V Narasimha Rao was the Prime Minister. Sushma said that the fighting between Isreal and Palestinians could end if both of them accept a ceasefire proposal mooted by Egypt.

Sushma strongly rejected the claims that Modi Government was lukewarm on Gaza because it involved Muslims, Sushma said, "We do not discriminate on the basis of religion."

Govt refuses to pass resolution condemning Israel

I am not very sure what our 'opposition' wants (Please don't insult the term by calling them secular - that they are not by a mile) - maybe they want Hamas to have a free hand to fire rockets at Israel, without any fear of retaliation - mirroring the terror attacks such as 26/11 on India, where the masters/minders of terrorists have faced no consequences. I think some of our neighbours who sponsor terrorists genuinely feel that terror attacks should have no consequences because it is all Holy-War against the Kuffar. They genuinely can't understand why terrorism should lead to adverse consequences for the sponsor - I mean, if they don't suffer for terror, why should Hamas?

The way I see it, Israel's response is disproportionate perhaps, but they are sending out a clear message - You mess with us, we mess back with you 100-fold. Given the neighbourhood and the history, I don't think we can blame them. Imagine for a moment if Hamas had the resources to 'wipe-out' Israel - do you think they would they would hesitate for a moment? Israel is showing far more tolerance than what Hamas/Palestinians would show if the positions were reversed. Back in 1948, when they thought they had the upper hand, Palestinians tried to resolve the issue in their favour using force along with Arab allies - and failed. I wonder what the position of Jews would be if the Palestinians/Arabs had won in 1948 - I'd wager it would be far worse than what Palestinians face in West Bank and Gaza Strip. It is not as if they gave up after one failure - they tried many times, along with their Arab allies. Does anyone here on this forum seriously think that Israel would be still in existence had it lost the wars in 1948/1967/1973?

The fact that Israel has lost 18 soldiers shows that they are going and fighting Hamas on the ground - possibly to avoid more collateral damage - not just bombing targets from the air as is being done in "Operation Eyewash" closer home. If they just wanted to kill Palestinians indiscriminately, they could have kept bombing them from the air.

I used to feel some years back that Israel's embargo on Gaza Strip was a bit excessive. But looking at things now, I realize I was wrong. Just imagine - If Hamas could put together 10,000 rockets in such conditions, what havoc would they have wrought if they could freely get in materials such as chemical or biological agents. They have shown enough willingness to use whatever means are at their disposal.

Finally, its a bit funny seeing all the outrage against Israel on this forum. I think far more Palestinian blood was spilled by the late general of exploding mangoes fame - that fact seems to conveniently escape most posters here. Selective outrage and intellectual dishonesty. The only way they will be happy is if Israel rolls over and lets itself be bombed out of existence. Its good to see that a nation has the courage to fight for its existence and its way of life.

PS
I hope to see a world where Israel and Palestine live in peace together. However, I don't think that peace can happen as long as Palestinians let themselves be represented by terrorists who deny Israel's right to exist, and who refuse to renounce violence.

 

[Imran Khan]

resolution or no resolution what will change on ground in gaza

 

[Jayanta]

Really? Iran? Saudia? You are slave to them because of oil and gas.

You think every country to be like yours. Iran do not give us oil for free....we pay them well. Unfortunately you guys have been American slaves ... helped them kill millions of Afghan muslims, and beg them for money....hence you feel others are also like you. But you are wrong.

 

[KingMamba]

Just so you know, hundreds of muslims are clashing with police in cities like Paris, but in India, there isn't even
one such demonstration so far, let alone public protest. The Muslims here are cowards. They know they'll be
spanked by RSS if they start such riots.

 

[farhan_9909]

Just so you know, hundreds of muslims are clashing with police in cities like Paris, but in India, there isn't even
one such demonstration so far, let alone public protest. The Muslims here are cowards. They know they'll be
spanked by RSS if they start such riots.

They will and i can also asure you that the day is not very far(2047).It was the biggest mistake on part of hindus to allow more than 0.5% muslims in your country after partition

 

[Gessler]

They will and i can also asure you that the day is not very far(2047).It was the biggest mistake on part of hindus to allow more than 0.5% muslims in your country after partition

You a$$, bitch. Your a$$ will be whupped 2,047 times by each Hindu. That's what some person actually said. But
your mullahs misinterpreted it.

 

[ChennaiDude]

Jatt lala,you have ruled over tamil for the past more than 6 decades but tamil no more can will support your imposed govt

Dude you suck at even trolling!..Try harder.

 

[ranjeet]

Really? Iran? Saudia? You are slave to them because of oil and gas.

I think you are in the wrong thread, we are discussing about India not Pakistan.

 

[Emmie]

Sushma rejected the demand for a resolution and pointed out that the Rule under which discussion was taken up does not provide for any resolution.

Following the minister's rejection for a resolution, Deputy Chairman of the Upper House P J Kurien said the government has not agreed for a resolution and both sides were also not able to reach a consensus on it. Though the Opposition members staged a walk out, the BJD and AIADMK MPs remained inside the House.

Technically it's the presiding officer who refused to present the drafted resolution before house. Ministers are no one to refuse or reject anything, to me title seems to be deceptive.

How resolutions are tabled in Indian parliament, I mean what is the procedure? Anyone?

 

[DARIUS]

There is no Leader of opposition as yet,hence no question of opposition walking out.The only thing that we have got in the name of opposition is this:

 

[arp2041]

resolution or no resolution what will change on ground in gaza

Gaza chor, tu India Aaza

 

[Imran Khan]

Gaza chor, tu India Aaza

kya mily ga phly muk muka ker loo yaheen se . aagy ja ker zaleel nhi hona mujhy

 

[Koovie]

Just so you know, hundreds of muslims are clashing with police in cities like Paris, but in India, there isn't even
one such demonstration so far, let alone public protest. The Muslims here are cowards. They know they'll be
spanked by RSS if they start such riots.

Thats wrong, there are protests in India against innocent death.

And people can protest against it and should protest if they feel its not right!

And what about the RSS?! The RSS is in no power to enforce laws! If the RSS goes so far, they need to be fought like any other criminal organisation.