Ms Roy has spoken again!!!!, what a freedom of venom!

[nair]

IB is capable no doubt. I am talking about just getting her thrashed and doing her in. No need to have such scum roaming around freely.

I dont think that is a right action to do, especially for a country like India.... But there are other ways to deal.....

 

[janon]

BTW, plenty of Indians on PDF have criticized Gandhi before, in much more pungent language.

When Arundhati Roy criticizes Gandhi, suddenly there is talk of letting the IB loose on her.

Nobody needs to be above criticism, Gandhi included. She has the freedom to criticize Gandhi, as do you and I.

In this case all your ire is misplaced, and frankly, hypocritical - some people who have commented on this thread have bad mouthed Gandhi before.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

IB is capable no doubt. I am talking about just getting her thrashed and doing her in. No need to have such scum roaming around freely.

Come on...she also needs food on her table. Having run out of her writing skills(or any other skills for that matter), there's only so much she can do to get some attention. Poor soul.

BTW, plenty of Indians on PDF have criticized Gandhi before, in much more pungent language.

When Arundhati Roy criticizes Gandhi, suddenly there is talk of letting the IB loose on her.

Nobody needs to be above criticism, Gandhi included. She has the freedom to criticize Gandhi, as do you and I.

In this case all your ire is misplaced, and frankly, hypocritical - some people who have commented on this thread have bad mouthed Gandhi before.

Nobody is having an issue with her speaking about Gandhi. It about her speaking (about anything) - that's all

 

[Levina]

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Booker prize-winning author Arundhati Roy, who has criticized Mahatma Gandhi for his "casteist tendencies" in the past, on Thursday went a step further saying it was time institutions named after the Father of the Nation were renamed.

Roy said the process could begin with renaming universities, a reference perhaps to Mahatma Gandhi University, one of Kerala's leading institutions, while delivering the Mahatma Ayyankali address — in memory of the state's renowned dalit leader — at the Kerala University.

Roy cited an essay by Gandhi in 1936 titled "The Ideal Bhangi", in which he advises manual scavengers to convert urine and night soil into manure as proof of his patronising attitude towards Harijans and how it helped reinforce caste hierarchies.

Refuting Roy, JM Rahim, coordinator for Centre for Gandhian Studies, drew attention to Gandhi's autobiography "My Experiments with Truth" in which he narrates how he fought bitterly with his wife Kasturba as he wanted her to clean the latrine, refusing to allow a bhangi to do it. "When his wife protested, he did the job himself," Rahim said.

Mahatma Gandhi. (Getty Images photo)

"To quote Gandhi out of context and say he was casteist is not only superficial but also shows Roy hasn't understood his philosophy. In South Africa, for instance, a Tamil Dalit family afflicted with leprosy stayed in his ashram despite the objections of the inmates," Rahim said.

Making a connection with BJP's "casteist" politics, Roy recalled Prime Minister Narendra Modi too had said that balmikis (bhangis) have scavenged for centuries for society and are therefore now spiritually cleansed.

Arundhati Roy. (TOI file photo)
In her lecture, Roy also claimed that while in South Africa Gandhi had branded black prisoners "kafirs" who were uncivilized, liars and had no scruples. Dr MS John, professor and director of School of Gandhian Thought and Development Studies at Mahatma Gandhi University, said it was a mistake to view Gandhi as someone who emerged fully formed.

Mahatma Gandhi with two of his grandaughters at Birla House in New Delhi in circa 1945. (Getty Images photo)
"The early Gandhi was not a radical personality. He evolved. The comment that he made about black prisoners was due to his own experience of threat of sodomy by inmates while he was jail," he said.

"Gandhi knew the culture and roots of India in all its depth and it is unfortunate that Arundhati Roy has made this statement for cheap publicity," said poet and activist Sugathakumari.

Mahatma Gandhi was a casteist, Arundhati Roy says - The Times of India

@levina @arp2041 @Joe Shearer @Storm Force ...please call othrs

Dashyyy
MG was shown a saint in most of the books.I dont support Ms.Roy, her use of harsh words gets her a lot of criticism. But yes I do feel that at many places MG has contradicted himself.Like on one side he said women should be given more freedom in his speeches while in one of his books he talks about how women should not be made completely independent (its an old book I will find its name and post it here) and he himself has confessed to having indulged in domestic violence.

 

[janon]

Nobody is having an issue with her speaking about Gandhi. It about her speaking (about anything) - that's all

Which is why I said all this ire here is misplaced. We don't need to get heated every time she opens here mouth.

 

[third eye]

She is one of those who knows the power of "Freedom of Expression" ...... But what worries me is "How this so called Power is used"???

Our constitution provides for freedom of expression , it now has become ' freedom to stupidity ' !

 

[OrionHunter]

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Booker prize-winning author Arundhati Roy, who has criticized Mahatma Gandhi for his "casteist tendencies" in the past, on Thursday went a step further saying it was time institutions named after the Father of the Nation were renamed.

This woman has completely lost it. Over the last 23 years, on a rough estimate 450 central and state government programmes, projects and national and state level institutions are named after the Nehru-Gandhi family, while Mahatma Gandhi's name figures in just four of these!

Airports to national parks, all have been named after the three musketeers - Rajiv Gandhi, Indra Gandhi, and Nehru. They've even come down to an astonishing level of idiocy. Sample this: Rajiv Gandhi Breakfast Scheme, Pondicherry; and the Indira Gandhi Calf-Rearing Scheme!! Sheesh!

All the major sports tournaments and trophies are named after the Nehru-Gandhis and this includes national and international tournaments in football, basketball, judo, beach ball, roller skating, kabaddi, rural cricket, gymnastics, boxing, the Delhi Marathon and the Kerala Boat Race. The only thing left out is the game poor urchins play in India's villages and urban gullies – Gilli Danda.

Why hasn't this feather brain hag who is a known boot-licker of the Nehru-Gandhi family, mentioned this?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Which is why I said all this ire here is misplaced. We don't need to get heated every time she opens here mouth.

Incorrect. We only get heated up when she opens her mouth. An ideal solution would involve her being behind bars for sedition long ago. Or may be a lunatic asylum.

 

[nair]

Our constitution provides for freedom of expression , it now has become ' freedom to stupidity ' !

But the other side of the coin is, That shows the maturity of our democracy......

 

[GURU DUTT]

THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Booker prize-winning author Arundhati Roy, who has criticized Mahatma Gandhi for his "casteist tendencies" in the past, on Thursday went a step further saying it was time institutions named after the Father of the Nation were renamed.

Roy said the process could begin with renaming universities, a reference perhaps to Mahatma Gandhi University, one of Kerala's leading institutions, while delivering the Mahatma Ayyankali address — in memory of the state's renowned dalit leader — at the Kerala University.

Roy cited an essay by Gandhi in 1936 titled "The Ideal Bhangi", in which he advises manual scavengers to convert urine and night soil into manure as proof of his patronising attitude towards Harijans and how it helped reinforce caste hierarchies.

Refuting Roy, JM Rahim, coordinator for Centre for Gandhian Studies, drew attention to Gandhi's autobiography "My Experiments with Truth" in which he narrates how he fought bitterly with his wife Kasturba as he wanted her to clean the latrine, refusing to allow a bhangi to do it. "When his wife protested, he did the job himself," Rahim said.

Mahatma Gandhi. (Getty Images photo)

"To quote Gandhi out of context and say he was casteist is not only superficial but also shows Roy hasn't understood his philosophy. In South Africa, for instance, a Tamil Dalit family afflicted with leprosy stayed in his ashram despite the objections of the inmates," Rahim said.

Making a connection with BJP's "casteist" politics, Roy recalled Prime Minister Narendra Modi too had said that balmikis (bhangis) have scavenged for centuries for society and are therefore now spiritually cleansed.

Arundhati Roy. (TOI file photo)
In her lecture, Roy also claimed that while in South Africa Gandhi had branded black prisoners "kafirs" who were uncivilized, liars and had no scruples. Dr MS John, professor and director of School of Gandhian Thought and Development Studies at Mahatma Gandhi University, said it was a mistake to view Gandhi as someone who emerged fully formed.

Mahatma Gandhi with two of his grandaughters at Birla House in New Delhi in circa 1945. (Getty Images photo)
"The early Gandhi was not a radical personality. He evolved. The comment that he made about black prisoners was due to his own experience of threat of sodomy by inmates while he was jail," he said.

"Gandhi knew the culture and roots of India in all its depth and it is unfortunate that Arundhati Roy has made this statement for cheap publicity," said poet and activist Sugathakumari.

Mahatma Gandhi was a casteist, Arundhati Roy says - The Times of India

@levina @arp2041 @Joe Shearer @Storm Force ...please call othrs

i dont get it OP why on earth are you even find her worthy of wasting precious bandwith / web space here i guess you have a lot of spare time to ponder about whorrres like her

thing is after the CBI , IB and other financial intellegence agencies are given the job to look into accounts of all the foreign funded so called "NGOs" specialli those speciallising in professional agitatioons against major infra devlopment work in india they atre getting frustrated and desparate as there source of income is evoprating fast and they are not getting state protection either in state level or national level

so they have to do something to keep themselfs relevnt in eyes of media and publik

just igonre such people they will dissolve ownthere own

 

[third eye]

But the other side of the coin is, That shows the maturity of our democracy......

Maturity too has its limits.

The west too is a matured democracy yet certain issues are a No No - Holocaust for instance.

This lady is a loose cannon.

 

[nair]

Maturity too has its limits.

The west too is a matured democracy yet certain issues are a No No - Holocaust for instance.

This lady is a loose cannon.

Yes she is... May be she is testing the maturity of our democracy and patience of GOI

 

[scorpionx]

Here in this very forum, people have discussed about taking her to bed. If we, under the shelter of anonymity shamelessly can enjoy "freedom of speech" in this manner, why can't she? Are we not being hypocrite and acting sane at the same time?

 

[he-man]

Mulayam Singh, Momta Banerji, Zaid Hamid, Rahul Gandhi etc disagrees with your post.

Hmmm..

Hey it was all cool to call the Maoists "Gandhians with guns", oh yeah, back then being a "Gandhian" could absolve you of all sins including waging war against the state. Now surely something (an ideology, a parallel which is less than perfect or not particularly fit for praise) which is less than absolutely desirable cannot be used in praise for the enlightened comrades.

i will not tolerate a word against my beloved communists,,,watch ur mouth dude or

somebody is gonna get hurt real bad

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Here in this very forum, people have discussed about taking her to bed. If we, under the shelter of anonymity shamelessly can enjoy "freedom of speech" in this manner, why can't she? Are we not being hypocrite and acting sane at the same time?

We need to name and shame the Godless Perv