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You can never be China’s friend’: Spengler

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He was a phantom among journalists, using the mysterious nom de plume, “Spengler.” Like his German philosopher namesake, the cultural critic returned again and again to his despairing theories of the decline of the West.

The work of “Spengler” drew from a deep and rich intellectual pool. And since the herald has revealed his true identity, we learn why. David P Goldman – philosopher, economist, mathematician and musicologist – is a Renaissance man. A former investment banker for the Bank of America and Credit Suisse, the American is known for his widely read column for Forbes magazine and Asia Times.

Dutch writer Leon de Winter crowns Goldman’s work as “among the most interesting in the world.”

We meet at the noble Princeton Club in Midtown Manhattan where Goldman is a member. He is intensively involved with China. Informed by close experience in the country and with its people, Goldman counsels caution toward the aggressive Asian empire. But before training a critical eye on the East, the keen observer sharply examines his own culture and the president for whom he voted in 2016.

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David P Goldman, “Spengler.”

As we speak, the country is in turmoil. For the fourth time in US history, a president might be impeached. Your thoughts?

Trump’s real liability isn’t impeachment. It’s China and the economy. What the Trump administration has been doing so far, vis-à-vis China, is an own goal — ein Eigentor [“an owner”].

Why is it an eigentor?

Because the effect of the tariffs on the US economy is at least as bad as the effect of the tariffs on the Chinese economy. American export orders are collapsing. We have the weakest industrial reading since June of 2009. We are in a manufacturing recession, according to the Federal Reserve. Factory output is contracting. Trump won in 2016 by carrying key manufacturing states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin. This blunder could lose him the election. This is much more dangerous than the impeachment masquerade. China’s also suffering, but appears to be suffering less. And the big difference is Xi Jinping [China’s president] doesn’t have a presidential election in 2020 and Trump does.

https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/10/article/you-can-never-be-chinas-friend-spengler/
 
Actually if you learn economy, trade war is always bad.

Every country want to connect to each others, every inland village want to build road to connect to the global trade network.

And yet, the trade war.

But if we want to look closer, it's not about economy, it's all about politics and superpower supremacy.

It's OK to sacrifice a little bit of economy, but thousands years of future prosperity and supremacy.
 
China, Russia, US, EU, none of them are Muslim's friend.Only Muslims can be true friends of other Muslims.Although many of us seem to have forgotten that.

Eh more like Muslim individuals than govts let's face it the Muslim world is too diverse with varying degrees of religiousty hard to unite under one banner needs to be done with individuals and common folk only not govt all countries be it Islamic or non Islamic work like that in the age of nationalism all the big Muslim regional powers also dont care only for power Turkey invaded Syria they are killing Kurds who are Muslim Iran same thing Saudi same thing
 
Eh more like Muslim individuals than govts let's face it the Muslim world is too diverse with varying degrees of religiousty hard to unite under one banner needs to be done with individuals and common folk only not govt all countries be it Islamic or non Islamic work like that in the age of nationalism all the big Muslim regional powers also dont care only for power Turkey invaded Syria they are killing Kurds who are Muslim Iran same thing Saudi same thing
We have lost our way.That's why our brothers & sisters were & still are oppressed, murdered,raped in Kashmir, Arakan, East Turkistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Palestine.Srebrenica,Chechnya,Sabra and Shatila.
We are busy fighting with each other while our enemies plot against us.
Once, Muslim army fought empires to answer the distressed call of a single Muslim woman.And now, millions die & get massacred while we bicker among ourselves.While some even join hands with the oppressors to murder their own brethren.

Most dangerous enemies for Muslim countries are some other Muslim countries.
The most dangerous enemy is the enemy within.
Not entire countries.I do not believe that except a small minority, a Muslim would wish harm for another Muslim just because of them are from different artificial boundaries.
It's more like, most dangerous enemies for Muslims are many of our rulers.
 
Lol

I think so.

No wonder... what Koran said about them is turned out to be true.

But what scare me is what they are going to do next up to the Armageddon war.
their destruction is inevitable. just a matter of time. but the prophet PBUH told us never let them live amongst you. what can I say
 
China, Russia, US, EU, none of them are Muslim's friend.Only Muslims can be true friends of other Muslims.Although many of us seem to have forgotten that.





Which is why China has done more for Muslim Pakistan and the Kashmiris than all the other Muslim countries put together..........:disagree:........... In fact most of the other so called "Muslim" nations have sided with india against Muslim Pakistan and the Kashmiris whereas China has stood firmly with us. Some Muslims like the Afghans are our biggest enemies who wish to harm us.........sorry to burst your bubble.........:disagree:

We have lost our way.That's why our brothers & sisters were & still are oppressed, murdered,raped in Kashmir, Arakan, East Turkistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Palestine.Srebrenica,Chechnya,Sabra and Shatila.
We are busy fighting with each other while our enemies plot against us.
Once, Muslim army fought empires to answer the distressed call of a single Muslim woman.And now, millions die & get massacred while we bicker among ourselves.While some even join hands with the oppressors to murder their own brethren.


The most dangerous enemy is the enemy within.
Not entire countries.I do not believe that except a small minority, a Muslim would wish harm for another Muslim just because of them are from different artificial boundaries.
It's more like, most dangerous enemies for Muslims are many of our rulers.





No thanks. Couldn't care less. I would ALWAYS side with China and Turkey over ALL the other Muslim nations put together. Religion is no longer important. Nationalism rules.
 
@Petrichor
Don't go for english translation just.. The friend there means, who can think only 'good' for you. Now good mans like observing fast. A communist friend may suggest that 'its a hot day. leave the fast for today' but a muslim friend won't say that. Similarly, an atheist may say' sell alcohol for more profit' but a muslim friend won't say that.

P.S.. Idealising that non-muslim friends do not know about Islam much and all muslims are good.
 
Eh more like Muslim individuals than govts let's face it the Muslim world is too diverse with varying degrees of religiousty hard to unite under one banner needs to be done with individuals and common folk only not govt all countries be it Islamic or non Islamic work like that in the age of nationalism all the big Muslim regional powers also dont care only for power Turkey invaded Syria they are killing Kurds who are Muslim Iran same thing Saudi same thing

The reality is you are correct.

The reality is also, that the Muslim world is in the state that it is because it cant get over those differences.

We know what to do but we are too weak minded to do it.

Much like a morbidly obese chain smoking doctor.
 
China, Russia, US, EU, none of them are Muslim's friend.Only Muslims can be true friends of other Muslims.Although many of us seem to have forgotten that.
People are people, we are all humans, should not be divided along the religious lines. Being a Muslim doesn't make you a more human and being an atheist doesn't make me a less one. Some times you have religious parents and atheist children or visa versa, but that won't cut the family bond and bloodlines.
 

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