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Xpeng stole Tesla’s and Apples technology: Elon Musk

Keep deluding yourself.....


Tesla is so far ahead of the competition its almost laughable. Their set for another record quarter, and look well on the path to nearly 1M deliveries next year.

Tesla will take over autonomous driving and Xpeng will run into a brick wall.
Lolx mate you are deluding yourself as for autonomus driving there are too many players there and I feel like Zoox will have more chance than Tesla or Xpeng especially now that they have backing of Amazon
 
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Any claimed 'self-driving' is fake until they use 5G tech to set up the communication network for all traffic and pedestrians...
In this field, China has already set the standard and lead the world:
We will be the first to realize self-driving for all vehicles.
 
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Keep deluding yourself.....


Tesla is so far ahead of the competition its almost laughable. Their set for another record quarter, and look well on the path to nearly 1M deliveries next year.

Tesla will take over autonomous driving and Xpeng will run into a brick wall.

I stand by my prediction that Tesla’s current honeymoon period in the Chinese market is very similar to Apple in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s. What happened was Apple dominated the Chinese market and thought domestic companies will never catch up. Domestic companies observed and learned and now totally dominate the Chinese market.

The exact scenario will happen to Tesla. Tesla comes into the market and dominates for a few years and once the Chinese companies are ready, Tesla’s market share will shrink.

China is the largest EV market. Chinese companies don’t need to sell to overseas markets to get big sales. Tesla needs the Chinese market.

Elon Musk attacking domestic companies will increase the profile of the domestic companies and they will gain market share.
 
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How shameless.
I stand by my prediction that Tesla’s current honeymoon period in the Chinese market is very similar to Apple in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s. What happened was Apple dominated the Chinese market and thought domestic companies will never catch up. Domestic companies observed and learned and now totally dominate the Chinese market.

The exact scenario will happen to Tesla. Tesla comes into the market and dominates for a few years and once the Chinese companies are ready, Tesla’s market share will shrink.

China is the largest EV market. Chinese companies don’t need to sell to overseas markets to get big sales. Tesla needs the Chinese market.

Elon Musk attacking domestic companies will increase the profile of the domestic companies and they will gain market share.
Tell me one truly Chinese car brand that has good sales overseas?
 
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I stand by my prediction that Tesla’s current honeymoon period in the Chinese market is very similar to Apple in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s. What happened was Apple dominated the Chinese market and thought domestic companies will never catch up. Domestic companies observed and learned and now totally dominate the Chinese market.

The exact scenario will happen to Tesla. Tesla comes into the market and dominates for a few years and once the Chinese companies are ready, Tesla’s market share will shrink.

China is the largest EV market. Chinese companies don’t need to sell to overseas markets to get big sales. Tesla needs the Chinese market.

Elon Musk attacking domestic companies will increase the profile of the domestic companies and they will gain market share.

Tesla has nowhere near the market share of Apple back in the day. They are just one player among many. In reality, Tesla outside of China is basically a zombie company with negative profit, they did not turn a profit from registration all the way up to 2020 when sales began in China.

Nobody in the US really cares about electric, it's all about gas guzzling SUVs and trucks. Even Tesla's own parking lot is filled with gas cars.

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Tesla employees don't believe in Tesla or are way too underpaid to drive their own vehicles.

You don't see Apple filled with people using Android phones, do you?
 
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chinese tech and self driving is like death warrant. No thanks.

Perception is the game of the Ignorant, and ignorance is the game of the fool.
Um...you do realize at the end he says his largest holding is Tesla and Nio being successful is a longshot bet due to many negatives including relying on Intel's Mobileye and incompetent Chinese state run companies.

Love the video. It is an excellent insight into the truth :enjoy:
I agree with his assertion Full self driving is the clincher.

The Tesla Full self driving beta is already being fielded to a few average consumers...way ahead of everybody else so far.

Plus Xpeng can't get Tesla's camera-only way to work and is adding in the Waymo way.
Chinese Tesla Competitor XPeng Is Using Lidar
Benzinga EV Insights 2 days ago


Nio Better Than Tesla

Besides its unit price superiority to Tesla, Nio’s Pilot performs better than Tesla’s auto-driving solution. Officially, Nio released the semi-autonomous technology in October. As Chinese customers compare Nio to Tesla, they will find that Nio’s assisted-driving solution is better suited for Chinese traffic conditions. CEO William Li said the company test-drove more than 300,000 kilometers (186,400 miles) across 30 major cities. With the map data collected, Nio’s self-driving EVs will fare better than Tesla’s Navigate on Autopilot. In August, it hired Ren Shaoqing, a computer vision expert and the co-founder of Momenta, a startup in the self-driving field.
 
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Keep deluding yourself.....


Tesla is so far ahead of the competition its almost laughable. Their set for another record quarter, and look well on the path to nearly 1M deliveries next year.

Tesla will take over autonomous driving and Xpeng will run into a brick wall.
Lol... Tesla shall learn to build a better EV before talking crap. Xpeng is world class EV. Symphony system with world class sound proof, unrival voice control system. Xpeng hardware is much superior than Tesla 3 and it's just a matter of software upgrade to make it level 4 or 5 driving.
chinese tech and self driving is like death warrant. No thanks.
Lol.. remember B737 max 8? I would rather take design and made in China plane than American. Same as EV. Chinese made staff are just much safer.
 
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Perception is the game of the Ignorant, and ignorance is the game of the fool.



Nio Better Than Tesla

Besides its unit price superiority to Tesla, Nio’s Pilot performs better than Tesla’s auto-driving solution. Officially, Nio released the semi-autonomous technology in October. As Chinese customers compare Nio to Tesla, they will find that Nio’s assisted-driving solution is better suited for Chinese traffic conditions. CEO William Li said the company test-drove more than 300,000 kilometers (186,400 miles) across 30 major cities. With the map data collected, Nio’s self-driving EVs will fare better than Tesla’s Navigate on Autopilot. In August, it hired Ren Shaoqing, a computer vision expert and the co-founder of Momenta, a startup in the self-driving field.

Just as I thought.

Each country has different road conditions.

Even if FSD entered Indonesia, it won't be 100% compatible with the local road.

It will take decades to perfect it.
 
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