Would the RPG-32 be good for Pakistan?

[Philip the Arab]

The RPG-32 Nashab is a rocket propelled grenade that was developed by Russia for Jordan. The rocket offers excellent penetration with at least 650mm of penetration with ERA and at least 750mm without ERA. Jordan currently produces 60,000 of these a year and I'm sure that Pakistan could easily double the manufacturing of these. As I stated before 650mm of penetration after ERA is easily enough to take out many Indian vehicles such as BMP-2, T-72 frontal arc maybe but certainty side, and rear armor.
What Indian vehicles can it take out?
BMP-1
The RPG-32 can definitely take out a BMP-1 simply because the armor is very thin and similar to BMP-2 armor with a 33mm RHA maximum on the BMP-2.

T-72
Assume the M1 Abrams (I can't find side armor for T-72) has better side armor than the T-72 because most likely it does. In theory the RPG-32 will penetrate most of the side armor except the most heavily armored parts. Also the front armor can be penetrated by most of this. This the T-72M while India has the M1 but considering how Indian tanks are downgraded I assume guaranteed penetration.

T-90
Most likely the RPG-32 will not penetrate the frontal armor of the T-90 because of its thickness except in some highly unlikely spots. The side armor is a guaranteed penetration because they were built to survive 35mm rounds which have 100mm armor penetration and 650mm will most likely cause a mission or mobility kill.

Any other vehicles I haven't mentioned are most likely able to be penetrated by the RPG-32 and I invite you to tell me otherwise.

Reason for buying the RPG-32
The reason I am saying that Pakistan should buy this RPG is because, firstly it will strength ties with a fellow Muslim country, give advanced anti-armor and anti-bunker capabilities to Pakistan which still uses the old but "Faithful" RPG-7 that lacks modern capabilities such as laser rangefinders, allow integration of anti-tank rockets on vehicles otherwise unable to carry ATGMs as I will show below. If you have any more reasons why Pakistan should procure this please feel free to state them.
RPG-7 an oldie but a goodie.
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In-Depth Specifications and Features
The RPG-32 includes a wide range of modern equipment that helps with training, fighting at night, and much more.

Anti-tank warhead
Technical Data

► Mass of round in container ........................................ 7.5 kg
► Length of round in container is .......................... 1000 mm
► Penetration is .................... 650 mm RHA with ERA and 750 mm RHA without ERA

Thermobaric Warhead (Fuel air explosion)
► Mass of round in container ................................. 7.5 kg
► Length of round in container is ....................... 1000 mm

RPG-32 with Modern Day sight and Night sight.

Launcher
► Mass of grenade launcher ............................................ 3 kg
► Length of grenade launcher ................................... 375 mm
► Caliber of grenade launcher ................................. 105 mm
► Life of grenade launcher ................................... 200 rounds
► Rate of fire............................................. 3 rounds per minute
► Time of system changeover from travelling position
to fire position max. 45 sec.
Launcher picture

Optical sight
The optical sight is designed to conduct Sighting on shooting at a range of up to 700 m. The optical sight is provided with distance adjustment mechanism , round type switch and temperature compensation switch. When in travelling position, the optical sight is securely installed inside the barrel of the grenade launcher.

1. The NV is placed and fastened in front of the objective of the
Recent Modern Day-Sight.
2. The NV is the optical telescope with built-in 3rd generation
image intensifier tube.
3. Visible magnification of the NV x1.
4. Angular Field of View 17°
5. Power supply one AA battery.
6. Overall dimensions 155x53x86 mm.
7. Detection up to 600 m.
8. Recognition up to 400 m.
9. The normal conditions are the following: starlit night, without
clouds and with the meteorological range of visibility - 5 km.
10.The device should operate in the environmental temperature
range from -40 to +50 °COn the sight reticule, the stadia metric scales enable the viewer to determine the target range which correspond when the target whether Man or Tank could be fitted between the two horizontal lines.

The sight is an optical-electronic device, which consists of ballistic calculator.



Technical Data

► Visible magnification ......................................................... x2
► Firing distances range from .............................. 50 - 700 m
► Operation air temperature ............................... -40 - +50°C
► Weight ......................................................................... 1.55 kg
► Power Supply ................................................ 2 AA Batteries

Night Vision Sight
1. The NV is placed and fastened in front of the objective of the
Recent Modern Day-Sight.
2. The NV is the optical telescope with built-in 3rd generation
image intensifier tube.
3. Visible magnification of the NV x1.
4. Angular Field of View 17°
5. Power supply one AA battery.
6. Overall dimensions 155x53x86 mm.
7. Detection up to 600 m.
8. Recognition up to 400 m.
9. The normal conditions are the following: starlit night, without
clouds and with the meteorological range of visibility - 5 km.
10.The device should operate in the environmental temperature
range from -40 to +50 °C

Training Simulator
The Simulator used for training
Operators on using the RPG-32
“Nashshab” Grenade launcher
inside classrooms to simulate real
firing conditions in the field simulator
consist from the following components:


- Projector
- Laptop
- Laser unit with piezo sensor
- Video receiver based on bracket
with the optical light filter
- Software
- Bluetooth adapter
- Optical Correction Unit
- Electronic Key
- Add on Button

RPG-32 versions

Man portable version
If you understand the above the back where the green starts after the sight is the round. Reloading is simple and just by taking off the round and placing a new one on.

Quad-1 Variant
The Quad-1 variant is basically just 4 rockets mounted on a controlling box which is in turn mounted on a tripod. The system is connected remotely via a remote control unit which can be operated up to 300 meters away via wire. I think this could be useful for Pakistan in setting up an ambush by camouflaging the launcher and an operator setting up a armored vehicle trap or even used near the LOC since no operator is at risk.
► Mode of operation .......................................... Day / Night
► Correction of side wind
and moving targets ............................................. Automatic
► Correction of altitude .......................................... Automatic
► The maximum distance
of the Remote Control Unit ...................................... 300 m
► Weight ...................................................................... 110 Kg
► Power Supply ................................... Accumulator Battery

The range of rotational angle of slewing device
● In Azimuth .................................................................. ± 85˚
● In Elevation ..................................................... + 30˚ to - 5˚

Quad-2 Variant
The Quad-2 Variant is a 4 RPG-32 rounds in a horizontal configuration. It can be operated internally and can carry either the thermobaric or anti-tank round. This could be useful for Pakistan as it can be mounted on a lot of common vehicles such as pickup trucks, HUMVEEs, etc.
► Mode of operation .......................................... Day / Night
► Correction of side wind
and moving targets ............................................. Automatic
► Correction of altitude .......................................... Automatic
► The maximum distance
of the Remote Control Unit ...................................... 300 m
► Weight ......................................................................... 90 Kg
► Power Supply ................................ Vehicle source power



The range of rotational angle of slewing device
● In Azimuth .................................................................. ± 85˚
● In Elevation ..................................................... + 30˚ to - 5˚

I hope you enjoy reading this thread as it took me a long, long time to write and I appreciate your responses if you have anything to say.

 

[Signalian]

Reason for buying the RPG-32
The reason I am saying that Pakistan should buy this RPG is because, firstly it will strength ties with a fellow Muslim country, give advanced anti-armor and anti-bunker capabilities to Pakistan which still uses the old but "Faithful" RPG-7 that lacks modern capabilities such as laser rangefinders, allow integration of anti-tank rockets on vehicles otherwise unable to carry ATGMs as I will show below. If you have any more reasons why Pakistan should procure this please feel free to state them.
RPG-7 an oldie but a goodie.

PA doesn't use RPG-7 in AT role. In same category is Alcotan 100 used by PA. There is a RR called SPG-9 used in mountains. These are Fire Support weapons.

For Ant-Tank warfare, the ATGM's are TOW (I and II) and HJ-8/Baktar Shikan.

 

[Philip the Arab]

PA doesn't use RPG-7 in AT role. In same category is Alcotan 100 used by PA. There is a RR called SPG-9 used in mountains. These are Fire Support weapons.

For Ant-Tank warfare, the ATGM's are TOW (I and II) and HJ-8/Baktar Shikan.

Think of it as an in between weapon. Bunker busting, APCs, IFVS. These can be used as an anti-tank weapon as the Mujahedeen did back in the war. These are much more man portable than the TOW or the HJ-8.

 

[Signalian]

Think of it as an in between weapon. Bunker busting, APCs, IFVS. These can be used as an anti-tank weapon as the Mujahedeen did back in the war. These are much more man portable than the TOW or the HJ-8.

RPG-32 range of 500-700m with 105mm Caliber is suited for urban warfare, so for the likes of rag-tag formation like the one you mentioned or Light Infantry/Para/SF, its a good weapon.

PA already operates Alcotan-100 (100 mm Caliber) with almost the same range of 600m. There are 150 launchers and 1400 rockets and probably doesnt plan to use it in Anti Tank warfare.

 

[Philip the Arab]

RPG-32 range of 500-700m with 105mm Caliber is suited for urban warfare, so for the likes of rag-tag formation like the one you mentioned or Light Infantry/Para/SF, its a good weapon.

PA already operates Alcotan-100 (100 mm Caliber) with almost the same range of 600m. There are 150 launchers and 1400 rockets and probably doesnt plan to use it in Anti Tank warfare.

You are right about that 700 meters isn't very far and it would suit urban warfare well. Do you agree that vehicle mounted versions are a good idea? Much simpler to use and integrate than an ATGM, can also shoot down helicopters pretty well, and can also. Ambushes in urban places or in the Kush Mountains would be good. For example small groups of maybe 10 people could ambush Indian convoys.
Exerpt from Wikipedia.
In Afghanistan, Mujahideen guerrillas used RPG-7s to destroy Soviet vehicles.

"To assure a kill, two to four RPG shooters would be assigned to each vehicle. Each armored-vehicle hunter-killer team can have as many as 15 RPGs.[31] In areas where vehicles were confined to a single path (a mountain road, swamps, snow, urban areas), RPG teams trapped convoys by destroying the first and last vehicles in line, preventing movement of the other vehicles. This tactic was especially effective in cities. Convoys learned to avoid approaches with overhangs and to send infantrymen forward in hazardous areas to detect the RPG teams. "

Skip to 12 minutes to see the Quad-1 RPG-32 in action and if you like you can also see the first indigenous ATGM in the Arab world skip to 15 minutes.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Skip to 58 seconds and slow it to .25 and you can see the RPG-29 round which has the same penetration as the RPG-32. The same would happen to Indian T-72s and T-90s if hit in the rear. You can be sure the crew is going to barbecued. Hope I don't get banned for these but its not bloody, graphic, etc.

 

[Trango Towers]

Skip to 58 seconds and slow it to .25 and you can see the RPG-29 round which has the same penetration as the RPG-32. The same would happen to Indian T-72s and T-90s if hit in the rear. You can be sure the crew is going to barbecued. Hope I don't get banned for these but its not bloody, graphic, etc.

One guy got out. Wooow

 

[Philip the Arab]

One guy got out. Wooow

I don't think he got out, he was next to the tank and probably suffered permanent hearing damage if he didn't die later that day. So do you think Pakistan should buy this or what?
Apparently the unit cost is 7000 usd which is very cheap for the amount of destruction this can throw out.

 

[Philip the Arab]

@waz why is my post saying 500 internal error? Its all over some of my images but I can't understand why its happening.

 

[Haris Mansoor]

Can someone here mention any weapon system developed by Pakistan entirely (I mean not a licensed production, not a variation of some other weapon)? (except for the sniper rife only)
JF-17 (with chines help)
Al-Khalid (with Chines help)
G3 (German licensed product)

 

[Philip the Arab]

Can someone here mention any weapon system developed by Pakistan entirely (I mean not a licensed production, not a variation of some other weapon)? (except for the sniper rife only)
JF-17 (with chines help)
Al-Khalid (with Chines help)
G3 (German licensed product)

R&D is expensive so why not have help?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Can someone here mention any weapon system developed by Pakistan entirely

Fighting men.

 

[313ghazi]

Can someone here mention any weapon system developed by Pakistan entirely (I mean not a licensed production, not a variation of some other weapon)? (except for the sniper rife only)
JF-17 (with chines help)
Al-Khalid (with Chines help)
G3 (German licensed product)

Have a read of these sites;
http://www.pof.gov.pk/products
http://www.hit.gov.pk/
https://www.pac.org.pk/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Weapons_Complex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Engineering_and_Scientific_Commission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_equipment_manufactured_in_Pakistan

We design quite a lot of weapons systems, many do have foreign components too.

http://depo.gov.pk/catalogue_pub_sector.php Another detailed link

 

[Great Janjua]

Should be purchased for bunker busting role it could be a good replacement for SPG-9 on LOC,Which has a poor reload time and is quite a pain in the *** too operate

 

[Haris Mansoor]

We design quite a lot of weapons systems, many do have foreign components too.

We do manufacture some weapon systems but does not design them, even a pistol (except for that sniper PSR90 if I am not wrong)

R&D is expensive so why not have help?

Not in the long run, though if we not take the kickbacks....