Would Iraq want Pakistan to join anti IS operations?

[Aepsilons]

At least some Non-Pakistani acknowledges the efforts done by Pakistani Armed Forces.. Appreciate this.

Many of us in the world know the contributions of your great nation.

 

[Daneshmand]

The threat of IS is an ideological one and it can only be hammered if they are defeated on the battlefield. This ideology also harms Pakistan as according to Pakistani Intelligence sources, we are a 'prime target' for this terrorist movement.

Pakistan has helped Iraq and Syria in the past by dispatching fighter pilots. The defense of Damascus was planned by none other than the Sq Ldr MM ALAM, the greatest Pakistani fighter ace during the Arab Israeli war.

Today we continue to help Iraq by servicing its arms requirements, broad training program including Spec Ops and diplomacy. I was wondering what would be Iraqi opinion if Pakistan dispatched some contribution i.e Counter insurgency experts from our rather experianced intel services, ISR or even some strike assets to Iraq for fighting IS?

Best Regards

Pakistan should concentrate on itself right now. Specially in this case where Syria or Iraq can not pay for any services they receive, in fact they need kind of free help which I doubt Pakistan is in a situation to provide. If this was 35 years ago, perhaps Pakistan could have been of help, but right now this is not the case. From gang violence of Karachi to Shia killing to an outright war with zombies in vazirastan to lawless Pakistani baluchistan, if there is anyone who deserves to receive this help, is Pakistan itself. In fact if I have to be honest, I would say, Pakistan is right now is in a battle for its survival. Such is the gravity of situation. Whether Pakistanis realize this or not, is another matter.

 

[Mutakalim]

One example is the fact that UAE's Intel service is headed by the former DG ISI, Lt Gen (R) Ahmed Shuja Pasha

That is shocking news for me. I remember few years back you guys are discussing the involvement of UAE, Qatar and Bahrain in insurgency in Balochistan. Is that threat eliminated?

 

[Aepsilons]

That is shocking news for me. I remember few years back you guys are discussing the involvement of UAE, Qatar and Bahrain in insurgency is Balochistan. Is that threat eliminated?

Sir @SaG E Jillani88 and Sir @Horus --- is there truth to these rumors that UAE, Qatar and Bahrain are directly or indirectly responsible for encouraging insurgency in Balochistan ? If there is truth to this ( i hope it is not true ! ) -- it just doesn't make any sense for them to do so; i mean what can they possibly get in having a destabilized Pakistan (a Sunni Majority Nation) ? It just doesn't make sense for me. Can you enlighten me , Sirs.

 

[TankMan]

Pakistan should consider supporting the fight against ISIS as part of the coalition, with expertise, intelligence and materiel - it will do a lot more good than it can do harm.

As for the people saying Pakistan needs to focus on the issues within itself, that is a valid point but firstly, they are perfectly capable of focusing while doing other things simultaneously, for example plenty of Pakistani soldiers are already out as part of UN missions. Secondly, militants almost always have a network. By fighting ISIS, we'd be fighting a key component of this network, which means that we're fighting the TTP and other militants within Pakistan at the same time. Especially now that they've pledged allegiance to ISIS, shows that their own infrastructure is collapsing and they need support from outside.

By fighting the militants on the outside, we'd be denying them that support, which is a step closer to their destruction. This will also give us the advantage of being able to share intelligence with the international force that is fighting ISIS, which may mean critical information regarding the network that is operating both within and around Pakistan.

And additionally, it will have the effect of improving Pakistan's international image, at least a little.

 

[Mutakalim]

Sir @SaG E Jillani88 and Sir @Horus --- is there truth to these rumors that UAE, Qatar and Bahrain are directly or indirectly responsible for encouraging insurgency in Balochistan ? If there is truth to this ( i hope it is not true ! ) -- it just doesn't make any sense for them to do so; i mean what can they possibly get in having a destabilized Pakistan (a Sunni Majority Nation) ? It just doesn't make sense for me. Can you enlighten me , Sirs.

I remember there is a thread running here on this issue. Horus can provide more details thanks.
@Horus

 

[Kompromat]

It may not be enough, but at least, someone is doing the right thing. And I would like to clarify to readers here one thing --- that Pakistan is doing a lot in regards to contributing soldiers for securing war torn regions in the world. Unbeknownst to many is the fact that Pakistan sends over 8,000 of her soldiers for UN-peace-keeping missions; that number is the 2nd highest in any UN member state. So for those who say Pakistan doesn't contribute to global peace -- that is utterly wrong.

In fact many of us , foreign citizens, should thank the Pakistan Armed Forces for sending her young men and women to help stabilize the world.

Just some facts for all those who are interested , most especially for detractors:

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8, 216 soldiers...!​

Current Chief Military Advisor of UN's global operations is a Pakistani officer.

 

[TankMan]

Current Chief Military Advisor of UN's global operations is a Pakistani officer.

Yep, It's Lt. General Maqsood Ahmed
Department for Peacekeeping Operations Chief. United Nations Peacekeeping

The current Military Adviser is Lieutenant General Maqsood Ahmed (Pakistan).

Secretary-General Appoints Lieutenant General Maqsood Ahmed of Pakistan Military Adviser for Peacekeeping Operations | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases

 

[OTTOMAN]

There are already Iran Revolution Guards and US army operating, are they both failing?

 

[Menace2Society]

Pakistan needs to withdraw from geopolitics for 25 years and build the economy. This is nor the time or the place.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Well I'have better idea if you want to help Iraq and help your self send a squadron of JF-17 to Iraq to participate in bombing the terrorists this way you show the lethalety of your fighters plus helping your bretherly country and this may give some good reputation to the thounder.

 

[al-Hasani]

Why not help each other out mutually? Is that not what supposed allies do? Large parts of the Arab world and Pakistan and its neighborhood (Afghanistan mainly) are facing similar problems with so-called "insurgencies" and mad genocidal dictators hellbent on staying in power at any cost.

It could be everything from political support, logistical support, financial support or direct military cooperation.

I for instance would like to see the Saudi Arabian Air Force helping Pakistan out in its fight against terrorism if need be and if I had something to say in terms of decision-making.

Pakistan faces its own serious challenges and it would be foolish of Pakistan (regardless of the admirable gesture of wanting to help) to focus on the ME at the expanse of Pakistan itself and the volatile backyard that surrounds the country.

In a ideal world the ME would grow up and sort out the mess together but that's unlikely to ever happen unless hell on earth erupts.

 

[Metanoia]

If Pakistan would like to help...it MUST bring in something new to the table...to offer, i.e. it should be a role model.

Unfortunately the Red Mosque, the JUI-F, the JI and various other madressahs/groups are still operational and enjoy local as well as strategic level support.

Pakistan Army is not a magic-wand per say...it just can not fight the people or the society of Pakistan.

 

[Winchester]

How about for once we strive to become a normal country???
You know the kind which focuses on its people....its national security...its economy
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Besides Iraqi forces seem to have changed the tide against the battle with ISIS
Iraq as a country has more resources than Pakistan and eventually they will overcome this threat !