World's most advanced fighter jet joins battle against ISIS in Syria for first time

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RAF Typhoon fighters join attack on IS for first time
By PRESS ASSOCIATION

PUBLISHED: 20:15, 4 December 2015 | UPDATED: 20:15, 4 December 2015

British Typhoon fighters have been deployed for the first time in the mission to defeat Islamic State in Syria and Iraq.

Two Typhoons and two Tornado jets were sent from the British military base RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus on a combat mission.

It follows the deployment of jets to the region following Wednesday's historic vote in the Commons.

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A pilot and navigator sit in an RAF Tornado GR4 as they wait to take off from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus, as RAF jets at the base continue bombing runs over Syria

The mission came as Prime Minister David Cameron insisted British war planes can help to bring about a political settlement in the civil war-torn country.

Earlier RAF Tornado fighter jets flew an armed patrol over the east of the country "gathering intelligence on terrorist activity", the Ministry of Defence said.

And in a continuation of operations in Iraq, two Tornados "silenced" a "terrorist" sniper team with a "direct hit" from a Paveway IV guided bomb, it added.

The number of fighter jets based at Akrotiri has been bolstered ahead of further sorties in Syria and continued raids in Iraq against IS, which is also known as Isis, Isil and Daesh.

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An RAF Eurofighter Typhoon arrives at RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus

Two RAF Tornado fighter jets flew an armed patrol over east Syria


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When did it become world most advance fighter? Reading the tittle I thought it was raptor or at least F-35

 

[yugocrosrb95]

ya typhoon is more reliable like this
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★Or like this
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★Or like this
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seriously and people say that Su 30mki has maintainance issue.....

Its still atleast few notch behind the the JF 17 .A joint fighter with Romanian design,Russian Engine,Chinese parts and painted by Pakistani engineers with Made In China Paint.....

So you basis that Eurofighter Typhoon is based on readiness rather than actual realiability of Typhoon and at that you are uninformed about european armies because since collapse of Soviet Union and thus the cold war the budget of european armies has systematically reduced year by year in 1990's, specially UK which maintained enough budget and only raise it according to inflation.

German's army is underfunded and european armies have enough budget for "cold drive" which is to maintain equipment to be conserved and maintained, this is due to leaders of european countries had a mindset that military isn't as needed as it was during cold war where war between NATO and the west and Soviet Union could happen.

Same thing happened to my country's army, after war ended and relationship with neighbouring countries improved, the budget was reduced and by middle of 2005 it had enough budget to sustain 20000 people and maintain equipment without any modernization.

In a dog fight between failed F22 and ''World's most advanced fighter jet'' who do you think will win.

You may laugh at notion that Typhoon is world's most advanced fighter jet due to your lack of knowledge thus you're ignorant and Typhoon has good chances against F-22 because of PIRATE IRST which works directly with CAPTOR and since F-22 can't equip an IRST while Typhoon can and has PIRATE at that, it can turn off CAPTOR for more stealthy, but risky approach in case somehow F-22 was spotted visually from land thus giving away location and heading, just using PIRATE to detect opposing fighter jet's.

F-22 needs to open its bay door to launch missiles which negates its stealth ability and that is why a stealth bomber was shot down during NATO's intervention in 1999 and apparently second stealth bomber was severely damaged too.

Typhoon will detect and lock on when head on at 50 kilometers and NEZ for Meteor is estimated at around 75 kilometers and Typhoon could detect it at 80 kilometers, if Typhoon gets behind F-22, specially if its supercruising/above mach 1/using afterburners then will have slim chances survival against Typhoon equiped both with PIRATE and IRST.

With CAPTOR-E the detection range will considerably increase... F-22 stealth capability is blown out of proportions.

You got to be kidding me. Typhoon is not even in the same generation as a raptor. I'll take f-22 over typhoon any day of the week.

So you are going to take a 4.5th generation fighter over other 4.5th generation fighter... Good.

You're a joke.

 

[Chika_Pika]

What about Vedic Tejas?

@waz
Please take a look here

 

[waz]

The Typhoon is beautiful as it is deadly.

 

[RoadRunner401]

You may laugh at notion that Typhoon is world's most advanced fighter jet due to your lack of knowledge thus you're ignorant

I may be ignorant but not a fool, I made it very clear, that i have very little knowledge on fighter jets. But for some strange reason, you chose to make it personal.

P.I.R.A.T.E – IRST (InfraRedSearchandTrack) system. This picks up heat changes around it and can by this spot subsonic aircrafts as far away as up to 100km+(The Germans say). This means that the Typhoon can still shoot its advanced IR-tracking missiles at a target, even though its enemy has stealth features.

This means that in a real fight it stands between the Raptor’s radar and the Typhoon’s P.I.R.A.T.E. Then we have to look at the different ranges of weapons and radars:


Fighter-------------------------------------Raptor--------------------------------------Typhoon

Radar infrared tracking range---------220km----------------------------------65km (because raptors had heat dispensing panels)

Practical radar range(this means at what range the weapons are capable of hitting(still not 100%) ie. at what range the targets are well designated):----------Raptor-180km------------------------ Typhoon 50km-----------------------------------------

Weapon range:---------------------------75 km---------------------5okm-------------------------------------------------

Countermeasures:---------------------Flares-------------------------------------- Chaff(like flares but versus radar instead)

Raptor is actually superior to a Eurofighter Typhoon in a real air-to-air battle. The 75km range of the Raptor’s Aim-120 AMRAAM missiles mean that it can choose to engage whenever it wants; even before the EF even knows there is a F-22 in the area!

 

[faithfulguy]

So you basis that Eurofighter Typhoon is based on readiness rather than actual realiability of Typhoon and at that you are uninformed about european armies because since collapse of Soviet Union and thus the cold war the budget of european armies has systematically reduced year by year in 1990's, specially UK which maintained enough budget and only raise it according to inflation.

German's army is underfunded and european armies have enough budget for "cold drive" which is to maintain equipment to be conserved and maintained, this is due to leaders of european countries had a mindset that military isn't as needed as it was during cold war where war between NATO and the west and Soviet Union could happen.

Same thing happened to my country's army, after war ended and relationship with neighbouring countries improved, the budget was reduced and by middle of 2005 it had enough budget to sustain 20000 people and maintain equipment without any modernization.



You may laugh at notion that Typhoon is world's most advanced fighter jet due to your lack of knowledge thus you're ignorant and Typhoon has good chances against F-22 because of PIRATE IRST which works directly with CAPTOR and since F-22 can't equip an IRST while Typhoon can and has PIRATE at that, it can turn off CAPTOR for more stealthy, but risky approach in case somehow F-22 was spotted visually from land thus giving away location and heading, just using PIRATE to detect opposing fighter jet's.

F-22 needs to open its bay door to launch missiles which negates its stealth ability and that is why a stealth bomber was shot down during NATO's intervention in 1999 and apparently second stealth bomber was severely damaged too.

Typhoon will detect and lock on when head on at 50 kilometers and NEZ for Meteor is estimated at around 75 kilometers and Typhoon could detect it at 80 kilometers, if Typhoon gets behind F-22, specially if its supercruising/above mach 1/using afterburners then will have slim chances survival against Typhoon equiped both with PIRATE and IRST.

With CAPTOR-E the detection range will considerably increase... F-22 stealth capability is blown out of proportions.



So you are going to take a 4.5th generation fighter over other 4.5th generation fighter... Good.

You're a joke.

F-22 is a fifth generation fighter. Typhoon is a good 4.5 generation fighter. Stop making up things. You are the joker here by saying rapter is a 4.5 gen plane. Who in here would believe you....

Also, you clearly have no idea on how a radar works if open the missile bay door for milliseconds would negate stealth. You are just making a fool of yourself.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

I may be ignorant but not a fool, I made it very clear, that i have very little knowledge on fighter jets. But for some strange reason, you chose to make it personal.

I apologize for being aggressive.

This means that in a real fight it stands between the Raptor’s radar and the Typhoon’s P.I.R.A.T.E. Then we have to look at the different ranges of weapons and radars:

Fighter-------------------------------------Raptor--------------------------------------Typhoon

Radar infrared tracking range---------220km----------------------------------65km (because raptors had heat dispensing panels)

That would be true in ideal conditions for Raptor which would be that it is heading at same flight altitude towards Typhoon head on, Typhoon will have higher chances/range of detecting Raptor if its above and even higher when it is below it and it will have a lock once it starts to get behind it.

Practical radar range(this means at what range the weapons are capable of hitting(still not 100%) ie. at what range the targets are well designated):----------Raptor-180km------------------------ Typhoon 50km-----------------------------------------

Weapon range:---------------------------75 km---------------------5okm-------------------------------------------------

Countermeasures:---------------------Flares-------------------------------------- Chaff(like flares but versus radar instead)

1. Typhoon has/can have both flares and chaff's
2. Typhoon can use Meteor BVRAAM
3. Meteor has mid-course update via data link

Raptor in stealth configuration will store rockets, bombs and fuel tanks inside storage bays to maintain it's stealth capability which is sacrified when launching missiles as it takes according to this video 2 to 3 seconds to close storage bay door's once AIM-120 AMRAAM is launched from it thus to open, launch AMRAAM and close storage bay door's it will take 4 to 6 seconds thus Typhoon pilot has a opportunity to find location of Raptor even if its just a rough area of where it could be.

Typhoon pilot can then choose to do a "maddog" and with a bit of luck Meteor could have a lock on Raptor though Meteor has two-way data link thus if Meteor get's a lock on Raptor then Typhoon's pilot will know its location and fire an IRIS-T up its rear.

Raptor is actually superior to a Eurofighter Typhoon in a real air-to-air battle. The 75km range of the Raptor’s Aim-120 AMRAAM missiles mean that it can choose to engage whenever it wants; even before the EF even knows there is a F-22 in the area!

In actual real air-to-air battle and not on paper "real air-to-air battle", they are almost equal with each having advantages and disadvantages though Typhoon has more advantages and less disadvantages compared to Raptor. Raptor may engage whenever it want's, but firing an AIM-120 AMRAAM at Typhoon is a gamble, a big one if that Typhoon has Meteor BVRAAM.

Once Raptor chooses to engage, the Raptor's lock on will warn presence of Raptor and when Raptor proceeds to launch AIM-120 AMRAAM then Typhoon may detect through radar and at that if AIM-120 AMRAAM comes into FOR/FOV of Typhoon's PIRATE then direction from where the missile is coming will be indication of where possibly Raptor is located thus Typhoon pilot can respond by firing Meteor BVRAAM in the direction from where AIM-120 AMRAAM is coming from.

Meteor BVRAAM is far superior to AIM-120 AMRAAM in range that is up to 300 kilometers, two-way data link which alllows mid-flight updates, heavy ECM, speed above Mach 4 and 3 to 6 times kinematic performance of current air-to-air missiles of its type.

F-22 is a fifth generation fighter. Typhoon is a good 4.5 generation fighter. Stop making up things.

I am making things up according your ignorance.

You are the joker here by saying rapter is a 4.5 gen plane. Who in here would believe you....

I am a joker because according to your own standards, F-22 Raptor is a 4.5 generation fighter.

Also, you clearly have no idea on how a radar works if open the missile bay door for milliseconds would negate stealth. You are just making a fool of yourself.

You're naive, since when 4 to 6 seconds are miliseconds? Did you skip all math classes in school?

I am making a fool of myself by correcting you and other's that don't bother to inform themselves properly yet you aren't a fool despite claiming that Eurofighter Typhoon isn't a 5th generation fighter yet according to your standards F-22 Raptor.

 

[airmarshal]

Is there an international mandate to bomb Syria? Is there a UN resolution?

Under what international law is UK bombing Syria?

This gang of pillagers - US, UK and France always have some UN resolution to give cover to their despicable destruction of a far away country. In case of Syria, they are not even willing to keep the appearances of propriety.

With Russia entering the war, all these countries are running headlong to bomb Syria.

 

[AMCA]

Exactly!! Vedic tech with ultra superior composite material(with 30 years of perfection) will be able to handle exiting & re-entry into earths orbital thus LCA Mk V will travel in Space in coming years.

We already have that in civilian application dude!! We do not intend to link it with LCA. Again your super duper DSI couldn't keep your pilot and Aircraft in air.

 

[Pulsar]

Tejas(That's it nothing more to say, the word itself is the punchline).

How about the Sino-Pak JF-17 Thunder super fighter?

 

[Path-Finder]

We already have that in civilian application dude!! We do not intend to link it with LCA. Again your super duper DSI couldn't keep your pilot and Aircraft in air.

But The advanced Vedic Composite material can keep the pilot in the air due to its advanced properties with 30 years of research and fine tuning!

 

[AMCA]

But The advanced Vedic Composite material can keep the pilot in the air due to its advanced properties with 30 years of research and fine tuning!

Of course it can, yet the Super DSI couldn't keep its pilot and Plane in Air.

 

[Path-Finder]

Of course it can, yet the Super DSI couldn't keep its pilot and Plane in Air.

Hence DSI is a failure it was a nursery design, But it cannot compete with 30yrs of research of Vedic Super composite material.

 

[AMCA]

Hence DSI is a failure it was a nursery design, But it cannot compete with 30yrs of research of Vedic Super composite material.

Oh you are being very generous. There is nothing on this planet yet which can come close to the DSI that couldn't even keep its Pilot and Plane in Air.

 

[shaheenmissile]

I came here looking for F-35. T-50. But.......