Words that BYTE

[Mentee]

I won't take names but some people whom I thought sane were mostly mentally emotionally unstable especially what I saw abt them in last couple of months , after microscopic analysis I concluded that not to take them serious and leave them at there own .
They don't deserve me and I don't have to take them seriously.
After that I am pretty satisfied with myself as there's no stress on me or proving myself .
Let them judge me by my posts and character.
So my suggestion is to keep people closer and once u know them then according to their behaviour prioritize them and don't let them overdrive ur nerves
@Mentee @Hell hound @django @Signalian @Maarkhoor @Starlord @RealNapster @Dawood Ibrahim @SherDil @Retired Troll @PakSword @thesandman @Nilgiri @Joe Shearer @jamahir @Ziggurat “TepeSialk“

We are all running in circles and nobody is asking the real question that why dint the management took action and opted to look the other way when rules of this forum drawn by none other but them were violated?

even when many a posters complaint about that particular incident ?

Supposedly they are the one who gonna enforce order and make sure evey forum Memeber behave as per the policy guidelines - - - - - - -.

 

[coffee_cup]

Would you believe a rich doctor?

A not so rich but competent doctor with dozens of patients every day, who actually get cured, will do fine.

 

[M. Sarmad]

I am not going to derail this thread...

You already tried to use the 'opportunity' to spew your BS sectarian takfiri propaganda. You used word "Kafir" repeatedly in your post to describe fellow Muslims who do not follow your sect.

PDF management, just like the Pakistani Establishment, has a soft corner for Saudi-inspired Takfiris

 

[The Sandman]

Amd the above is the list of those people

@Hell hound , @Starlord

mjhe to tag hi ni kia thk se shukar hai

 

[Tps43]

mjhe to tag hi ni kia thk se shukar hai

Bhai kiya hai buss sahi se nhi kiya
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/words-that-byte.595527/page-8#post-11083436

 

[M. Sarmad]

We are all running in circles and nobody is asking the real question that why dint the management took action and opted to look the other way when rules of this forum drawn by none other but them were violated?

even when many a posters complaint about that particular incident ?

Supposedly they are the one who gonna enforce order and make sure evey forum Memeber behave as per the policy guidelines - - - - - - -.

Maybe the guy had been one of those 'donors' who helped PDF admin sustain the site during hard times.

Or maybe a personal acquaintance.

Or maybe just because the administration thought that the member was too good to lose over provoked transgression.

Or maybe the management has become more lenient and open towards freedom of speech.

Could be anything. We can speculate only.
@WebMaster, however, can clear the confusion, if he wants to

 

[CriticalThought]

You already tried to use the 'opportunity' to spew your BS sectarian takfiri propaganda. You used word "Kafir" repeatedly in your post to describe fellow Muslims who do not follow your sect.

PDF management, just like the Pakistani Establishment, has a soft corner for Saudi-inspired Takfiris

Keep up your attempts at thread derailment, flame baiting, and incitement through wrongful and poisonous misinterpretation. I find it highly ironical that I should be forced to engage in this conversation on this particular thread. Regardless, its not going to work. My post is meant for people of an egalitarian nature who can look past their pettiness and think on a higher level. Your allegations do not change this.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Keep up your attempts at thread derailment, flame baiting, and incitement through wrongful and poisonous misinterpretation. I find it highly ironical that I should be forced to engage in this conversation on this particular thread. Regardless, its not going to work. My post is meant for people of an egalitarian nature who can look past their pettiness and think on a higher level. Your allegations do not change this.

You were the first one (and the only one so far) to bring sectarian hatred into this thread.... A failed attempt at derailment and incitement ...

And what could be more ironic than a sectarian bigot like yourself first dismissing almost everyone who is not a follower of his own sect/cult as a "Kafir" and then talk about ''egalitarianism" ... !!!!

 

[VCheng]

Quite amusing,

I had warned long before when the forum took a conscience decision to encourage rabid trolls here and turn this into a hateful structure. Now that each and every other thread is a free for all crap slinging fest, you are trying to assign root cause for the situation. Did you not know this would happen if the the forum intentionally took a position rather than being a platform? The members who insinuated all this with austerlitz, three years ago would have been shown the door a long time ago. Members who were issued perm bans couple of years ago are again back here, members with 50 -ve reps are still here; obvious falseflags ran amok here with the connivance of the management; Have you not seen a known TTC's conduct over the years here of troll baiting 24 /7 with thread filled with racial slurs? where was such scrutiny back then. Finally when one member responded in kind knowing the consequences; he just did not lose his temper, he lost patience with this management knowing the incompetence of the administration here, he responded the way he did because you (the moderating team, admin and staff) failed him.

"Finally when one member responded in kind knowing the consequences; he just did not lose his temper, he lost patience with this management knowing the incompetence of the administration here, he responded the way he did because you (the moderating team, admin and staff) failed him."

What if the system worked as intended by design?

How any cow piss, monkey work-shipping, stone worshiping slurs have attracted bans here? Knowing him quite well, I don't think it was directed towards the the trolls at all, he was responding to but to the forum to show what level it has fallen to. I can't relate to his position as i really don't care about any one's god (likely neither do you), but given it has become a free for all, especially for repeat offenders, this was his way of giving up. Don't agree with the format, but if the objective of thread is to understand root cause, you also need to look at the design failure mode of the current structure.

The design mode of the current structure will deliver only the results its design intends to deliver, and hence not a failure mode.

I've told the mods many times.

I once even started a thread about nonsensical banning of old members like me and @lastofthepatriots ....

Oscar had closed that with some politically correct vague statement that said frankly nothing.

The problem statement:

1) Not enough good mods

2) Immature mods

3) Unfair mods

4) Unfair application of rules

5) No platform for post ban conversation unless you are lucky to have a one on one rapport with a mod/s

6) One God is more loved than other Gods

7) Lack/slowness of response to reported posts

8) No explanation given why a report is ignored or not acted upon

9) Extra-Pakistan mods with personal fiefdoms

10) Nasty frustrated little people

@Oscar @Horus @WebMaster @waz @Arsalan @Dubious

Cheers, Doc

What if the problem statements are desired design features?

Really, radicals elected in india transformed a normal poster like Austerlitz into posting what he did and those radicals caused the other members in the altercation into trolls who erstwhile were quality posters. Look at the quality of the posts of the Pakistani members who baited Austerlitz, did they transform into trolls because of Modi now?

Again, I am pointing out moderation standards have gone down the drain, if you intentionally choose not to see it, then my vote for this thread would be to reinforce what seems like your predisposition is; to ban all Indian members.

And what better way to crown the whole (online) lynching by a frenzied mob instigated by design than to blame the other side by those who can exercise control: "Nothing was wrong, and if it is wrong, it is because they made me do it".

This microcosm is indeed representative of the wider whole.

Sound familiar?

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This whole issue will soon blow over without much residue, and PDF, without a doubt, will carry on as before.

 

[CriticalThought]

You were the first one (and the only one so far) to bring sectarian hatred to this thread.... A failed attempt at derailment and incitement ...

And what could be more ironic than a sectarian bigot like yourself first dismissing almost everyone who is not a follower of his own sect/cult as a "Kafir" and then talk about ''egalitarianism" ... !!!!

The sectarian hate is in your own mind. I will use whatever means I deem fit to explain my points. If you have an issue with them, then mind your own business.

You have shown your own self consistently as being in denial of Hadith, and confirming to the definition of a Zindeeq. Whatever you say on the topic of Islam has absolutely no value. But a fasaadi (trouble maker) by nature will cause trouble, and that is exactly what you are trying to achieve. Shame on you.

 

[M. Sarmad]

The sectarian hate is in your own mind. I will use whatever means I deem fit to explain my points. If you have an issue with them, then mind your own business.

You have shown your own self consistently as being in denial of Hadith, and confirming to the definition of a Zindeeq. Whatever you say on the topic of Islam has absolutely no value. But a fasaadi (trouble maker) by nature will cause trouble, and that is exactly what you are trying to achieve. Shame on you.

Takfir is Fasaad
And I am not the one doing takfeer on others!

As for explaining your point, you can do that without issuing Fatwas of Kufr.

 

[AMG_12]

The sectarian hate is in your own mind. I will use whatever means I deem fit to explain my points. If you have an issue with them, then mind your own business.

You have shown your own self consistently as being in denial of Hadith, and confirming to the definition of a Zindeeq. Whatever you say on the topic of Islam has absolutely no value. But a fasaadi (trouble maker) by nature will cause trouble, and that is exactly what you are trying to achieve. Shame on you.

Oh so we should start taking your word on Islam? Who're you, whatre your credentials? Under what authority do you distribute these "Kafir" licenses? You're just another offshoot of Zia's Islamisation.

 

[padamchen]

@VCheng

Well, there is no doubt that Austerlitz was baited.

What is surprising is that he was not banned in the original instance but a Pakistani was.

Especially since I have been consistently banned for way lot less.

So I think there is more to this than just Indian and Pakistani, Hindu and Muslim, Hinduism and Islam here.

This is a baby storm compared to the one when the UK loyalists tried the overthrow.

Weren't you very much in the middle of that war? I used to be on WAB in those days ....

Cheers, Doc

 

[Joe Shearer]

A not so rich but competent doctor with dozens of patients every day, who actually get cured, will do fine.

@padamchen

Now you listen up, you idle young pup. Go out there and do your two dozen a day. And I do NOT mean Shrewsbury biscuits.

Maybe the guy had been one of those 'donors' who helped PDF admin sustain the site during hard times.

Or maybe a personal acquaintance.

Or maybe just because the administration thought that the member was too good to lose over provoked transgression.

Or maybe the management has become more lenient and open towards freedom of speech.

Could be anything. We can speculate only.
@WebMaster, however, can clear the confusion, if he wants to

He was really good in his chosen area of history and of military history. I had no idea that he was so vulnerable to attacks on his own religion and culture as to react himself instead of reporting these and staying out of it.

Most unfortunate.

 

[padamchen]

@padamchen

Now you listen up, you idle young pup. Go out there and do your two dozen a day. And I do NOT mean Shrewsbury biscuits.

Joe if I were to "do" them I'd lose my shaky license.

Then me and MJ Akbar could compare notes.

Cheers, Doc