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[Dubious]

may I ask the reason you only stalk idiotic Indians (who damage Indian image) but ignore or dare I say praise and help the clever and harmful (to Pakistan) ones?

When have I "stalked" anyone? I respond to reports which have links attached to them and I have to look at the link.

And who have I praised?

 

[Joe Shearer]

first you tell me whether or not Modi Shah and Doval et al. are incharge of India
If not him who is in-charge?

Their writ does not run; they have bungled everything they set their hands to, because they did not carry the administrative set-up with them. Every single thing. Go through the ministries one by one.

And I note you are evading the question.

 

[doorstar]

And who have I praised?

go through this thread and you might find who, if not praised certainly backed!

 

[coffee_cup]

No. I wait for your statistical report, since you have had apparently spent valuable time in counting sheep. I have concentrated on contributing to the forum's discussions.

So then please keep your focus there. And leave it to those who have found ways to separate serious posters from trolls. All I can tell you, the number of serious posters from the Eastern side can be counted on fingers. The rest is trolls of various degrees. Ranging from bearable funny ones to toxic hate mongers.

I read, be sure of that; it was not without reading that I responded. I am also talking in the broader, general context, where I had never before objected to the constant drumbeat of abusive posts from a dozen Pakistani members, all of whom are very well known, including by you. Please don't lecture us on who is considered what; some of us have paid our dues, indeed, more than our dues, including being accused of being pro-Pakistani traitors for trying to see the Pakistani point of view.

Quoting someone who often rides the high horse: "I will not dignify that with an answer. It deserves none."
(Since you are getting personal here.)

Why have you not noticed the other general pattern, where, out of the blue, in the middle of an otherwise sane discussion, some lunatic jumps in and abuses Hindus, their objects of religious devotion (variously called animals, elephants, four-armed freaks, blue-bodied freaks, and so on and so forth ad nauseam), their worship of the cow, their weakness for all the excrement of a cow, their family habits, including, I believe, their propensity to marry their siblings, not their cousins...do you recognise the pattern, or should you now want proof in terms of actual citations?

I have said it before and will repeat it, religion for me is a personal choice and I dont give a **** about who believes in what. I have equal problems with all religious nutters and extremists: be it Taliban or their counterparts RSS/BJP on our Eastern side. Mowlwis, Sanghis, neo cons.. whoever.

But if a defence minister of a country would claim that his "Hanuman" army has invaded the enemy territory and conducted fictional "surgical strikes" there, I do believe that he himself is giving others a chance to mock.

And my understanding is this, that religious discussions are generally forbidden on this forum and people very often get reprimanded even banned for violating those rules.

It should not, any more than the other stream of filthy abuse should be allowed. Have the manhood to stand up and acknowledge the faults on your side.

Moving on...

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I have started to appreciate #IndianNeutrality and I think it can solve a lot of troll related problems on this forum.

 

[waz]

Yikes 20 pages!
I value the diversity that many other members from different countries bring.

 

[Dubious]

go through this thread and you might find who, if not praised certainly backed!

Thread was started by @Oscar ...I havent the time to read through it..I am too busy clearing 71 reports!

 

[doorstar]

Their writ does not run; they have bungled everything they set their hands to, because they did not carry the administrative set-up with them. Every single thing.

it is not they who bungled, it is the victims who are countering them. failures are not only due to bungling but stiff resistance shown by the intended victims causes defeats

And I note you are evading the question.

if the shoe fits, wear it etcetera etcetera!

Thread was started by @Oscar ...I havent the time to read through it..I am too busy clearing 71 reports!

okay then, cheers

 

[Joe Shearer]

So then please keep your focus there. And leave it to those who have found ways to separate serious posters from trolls. All I can tell you, the number of serious posters from the Eastern side can be counted on fingers. The rest is trolls of various degrees. Ranging from bearable funny ones to toxic hate mongers.

Right.

Now do the exercise for your own, and tell us your results.

Quoting someone who often rides the high horse: "I will not dignify that with an answer. It deserves none."
(Since you are getting personal here.)

Good.

I will take it as read into the record.

I have said it before and will repeat it, religion for me is a personal choice and I dont give a **** about who believes in what. I have equal problems with all religious nutters and extremists: be it Taliban or their counterparts RSS/BJP on our Eastern side. Mowlwis, Sanghis, neo cons.. whoever.

Clumsy.

What was in discussion was your selective choice of examples. Examples, not your personal track record, or your personal belief system.

But if a defence minister of a country would claim that his "Hanuman" army has invaded the enemy territory and conducted fictional "surgical strikes" there, I do believe that he himself is giving others a chance to mock.

So mock. But don't criticise those from other countries who mock you , in turn. There is enough material.

And my understanding is this, that religious discussions are generally forbidden on this forum and people very often get reprimanded even banned for violating those rules.

Look at your own members, and their 100% records, before you say this. Remember that you have to contend with the written record; they have written filthy abuse too often to be overlooked, or to be brushed under the carpet.

Moving on...

The suggestion was to stand, but your difficulty is clear and is understood.

I have started to appreciate #IndianNeutrality and I think it can solve a lot of troll related problems on this forum.

Then you seem to have the equivalent of the unified field theory. Congratulations.

 

[Dubious]

okay then, cheers

Address your complains to @Oscar as he started this thread to listen to you guys...

 

[coffee_cup]

No facts were listed, so the question is hypothetical. You are on weak ground, and it shows in your responses.

What is hypothetical there?

You think your word bears more weight than countless other high-ups in your country starting from the top most, i.e. your own PM?

Has India not financed, trained, armed Mukti Bahini, LTTE, BLA (and even TTP), to name the few?

 

[Joe Shearer]

What is hypothetical there?

You think your word bears more weight than countless other high-ups in your country starting from the top most, i.e. your own PM?

Has India not financed, trained, armed Mukti Bahini, LTTE, BLA (and even TTP), to name the few?

Yes, my word bears more weight than the unbalanced words of a politician known to lie to aggrandise his own achievements. Except that you find it more convenient to believe him.

As for the list, the answers are Yes, Yes, No, No.

 

[coffee_cup]

Yes, my word bears more weight than the unbalanced words of a politician known to lie to aggrandise his own achievements. Except that you find it more convenient to believe him.

Personal likes/dislikes aside, he is the constitutional head of state and the official representative of the country of billion plus. This is he who speaks on behalf of modern day India. And who are you? Just an average Joe (no offense intended).

As for the list, the answers are Yes, Yes, No, No.

So nothing hypothetical there. India has been sponsoring cross-border terrorism in the neighborhood for more than half a century. This is a fact that world has to know, and Pakistan should use every forum, including PDF, to highlight that.

If Indian trolls complain and abuse the poster for doing that, they should get a taste of #IndianNeutrality.

 

[doorstar]

Yes, my word bears more weight than the unbalanced words of a politician known to lie to aggrandise his own achievements. Except that you find it more convenient to believe him.

the fact remains that he is the RULER, NOT you. His word can start/stop wars/genocides, yours can't. his can build/destroy mandir/masjid/gurdwara, yours can't. there is so much more he can do (build or destroy) you and I can only fantasize about

 

[coffee_cup]

So mock. But don't criticise those from other countries who mock you , in turn. There is enough material.

If I want to read abusive posts by Indians, I would go to their forums. And trust me you, there are zillions of those on their space.

Since I do not feel a need to read that hateful trash, I come to my own Pakistani forum.

And then my expectation of being a Pakistani is that Indian hate-brigade who writes such trash here should be dealt with #IndianNeutrality.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Personal likes/dislikes aside, he is the constitutional head of state and the official representative of the country of billion plus. This is he who speaks on behalf of modern day India. And who are you? Just an average Joe (no offense intended).

First, he is not the constitutional head of state. Look it up.

Second, even someone as myopic as you must have a feel for his status at the moment, and the repeated rebuffs that he has got from the electorate, losing his party's three loyal states, from the courts of the land, that even today have reversed his decisions, and reversed several others earlier, and finally, from his own party's senior leaders - list available on request.

Allow me to point out that you are insensitive to these because you are not used to democracy and how it operates, in the absence of an unseen presence that sets the agenda and decides the outcome. So you don't have a clue, and won't have a clue until the passage of some decades of untrammeled democratic rule. That is a far distant prospect.

So nothing hypothetical there. India has been sponsoring cross-border terrorism in the neighborhood for more than half a century. This is a fact that world has to know, and Pakistan should use every forum, including PDF, to highlight that.

Could I point out that you are derailing the thread?

If Indian trolls complain and abuse the poster for doing that, they should get a taste of #IndianNeutrality.

And conversely.

the fact remains that he is the RULER, NOT you. His word can start/stop wars/genocides, yours can't. his can build/destroy mandir/masjid/gurdwara, yours can't. there is so much more he can do (build or destroy) you and I can only fantasize about

He can't really. Just look around and take a closer look at the situation in the UK. Try not to be influenced by what has happened in Pakistan. He could have done a lot; he didn't, so putting horns and a tail on him is purely your own political stance, one, incidentally, that the world at large doesn't accept. Talk about fantasising.

If I want to read abusive posts by Indians, I would go to their forums. And trust me you, there are zillions of those on their space.

That is a straw man argument. Nobody asked you to go anywhere else. By raising that and shooting it down, you gain a victory that only you can see.

It doesn't fool anybody.

Since I do not feel a need to read that hateful trash, I come to my own Pakistani forum.

GOOD for you.

And then my expectation of being a Pakistani is that Indian hate-brigade who writes such trash here should be dealt with #IndianNeutrality.

Nobody says no to that. All that reasonable people are saying, and that you have been in denial about, is that Pakistanis who troll should be treated exactly the same. If you use #IndianNeutrality, you accept the Indian position on it. Is that what you want?