Women Will Have Access To Education And Work, Foreigners Can Leave, Says Taliban After Entering Kabul

[magra]

I am cautiously optimistic. As @Indos says above, in the 1990s they were just coming out of Madrassahs and brought a lot of extremism along; they had a Messianic Zeal then! BUT they are also human being, capable of change and 20 years in the wilderness, especially in such a connected, informed world, had to have some moderating affect on them.

Related to this topic, saw a video from within last 24 hours featuring Pakistani journalism Saleem Safi. He is one of those journalists from Pakistan whose opinion about events in Afghanistan are extremely insightful and informed-- HE is the one who should have been consulted by Americans instead of a lot of idiots in London or Washington DC commenting about Afghanistan.

Anyway, here is my understanding of Mr. Safi's key points (some points added per other sources):
1) Taliban have shown mercy and respect even to the Gov. of Kandahar who had killed a lot of Taliban.
2) So far, not enforced beards on men where in the past even the length of the beards were enforced.
3) Women are NOT expected to wear a Burqah--a head-covering would suffice.
4) Women are supposed to be allowed to go to work without a male escort.
5) Education for women through even PhD would be okay but in technical fields (Ex: Lady doctors)
6) Taliban are seeking legitimacy and they are not the same as they were (this was said by a staffer from the UK's Ministry of Defense!)
7) Taliban have not touched the Shia Hazara community so far this time--perhaps as an olive branch to Iran or as genuine change of heart.
8) Internal dialogs from Taliban revealed that they would have even spared General Dostum.

It is too early to say whether how many of these would be actually allowed but I am cautiously optimistic. Also, one thing to note is that beyond Kabul and very few large cities' whose very small more 'liberal' populations, most Afghans are very conservative anyway.

If Taliban has truly changed and want an inclusive Afghan govt, they should organize free elections in Afghanistan. Let the elected body (without outside interference) lead Afghanistan for its best interests.

 

[Thorough Pro]

There are those who lack awareness or knowledge and then their are arrogant and delusional, stay where you are, you deserve nothing better.

Better than any degree of 'Islamic studies' from any madrassas.

 

[Thorough Pro]

For arts the western countries are known for making ****, legalizing prostitution, gay marriages, child rape, abortion, hate, racism, indiscriminate massacre of other religions and races, for STEM all your high tech couldn't do jack shit about rigged up illiterate rag tag Taliban's who riggup those Toyota trucks.

I know you are hurt, my condolences on the beginning of the end of your so called American Century.

Every major power in history have two things in common: the Arts and STEM. Combined, the two contributed to the overall 'culture'. But for outside observers, the Arts and STEM nearly always stand out.

The Arts is about the intellect, the soul, and the heart of the people. These things are expressed in language, music, paintings, religion, and so on.

Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math (STEM) are about Nature, as in how the people manipulate Nature for their advantage. For example, sand and rocks are natural, but the brick and concrete are not. To make bricks and concrete requires study and understanding of Nature.

For the Arts, Afghanistan under the Taliban will be associated with blowing up statues.

For STEM, Afghanistan under the Taliban will be associated to rigging up heavy weapons to Toyota trucks.

And that will be it...

 

[Trango Towers]

Taliban didn't kill a single US/NATO soldier after signing the agreement, despite US breaking the agreement by bombing them last week!

Taliban are far more believable than you lying scum Americans.

Plus they can easily over run kabul Airport but they haven't bothered

 

[Tom_Cruise]

That's it ban for quite a while. His posts were shocking beyond belief.

He only registered a few days ago and almost all his posts were anti-Pakistan rhetoric right from the outset. He was clearly some dumb Indian.

 

[mike2000 is back]

They were just coming from Madrasah in Pakistan before they took control Afghan in 1997

So madrasah teaches what if not islam?

 

[Mohammed al-Faruqi]

Glad tidings for Afghanistan. After decades of American colonisation, they've removed and liberated the country within matter's of day from the yoke of imperialism.

Hold tight to the hard earned freedom and independence.

May peace and prosperity flourish insha'Allah.

 

[Verve]

So madrasah teaches what if not islam?

Madrasah's teach the ideology of the sect/group it's part of, and each sect deviates in many ways from Islam. Independent study of Quran and Sunnah is not allowed, and their own interpretations are only accepted and taught. In summary, Sects exist for power and funding, not to teach Islam.

Afghan Taliban moving to hijab from burkah for women is the right Islamic law and a major deviation from the sect they were taught. Hijab is compulsory in Islam, not burkah, but a woman who wants to wear burkah on her own accord can't be forced not to. Allowing education and work for women is also a major deviation from their sects teachings, that is now in compliance with Islam. It seems they've had time to study Islam (Quran and Sunnah only) independently. I am waiting for their laws to be announced to understand what all they've changed on.

 

[Indos]

So madrasah teaches what if not islam?

Madrasah is like a high school in Islamic study, here in Indonesia Madrasah student will go to university after completing the 3 years study there.

Sunni Islam has 4 Madzhab and all of them are normal. unlike Taliban version of Islam. All 4 Madzhab is followed by all Muslim nation like Indonesia and Saudi

Here in Indonesia, state Islamic university has female Rector, she leads the university and all Madrasah students who want to study Islam go to this university. We have one in every province with majority Muslim population.

This UIN Sharif Hidayatullah Jakarta, Islamic University with many Islamic study until Doctoral degree. The location is near Jakarta and the center or the most respected in all Islamic study universities across Indonesia that all are state owned. In here there also many non-Islamic studies like Medical, Psychology, and other. It is like Al Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt.

The rector is female, Prof Doctor Amany Lubis. (From her name she comes from North Sumatra). Doctorate degree is similar like Phd in USA.

 

[Indos]

Madrasah is like a high school in Islamic study, here in Indonesia Madrasah student will go to university after completing the 3 years study there.

Sunni Islam has 4 Madzhab and all of them are normal. unlike Taliban version of Islam. All 4 Madzhab is followed by all Muslim nation like Indonesia and Saudi

Here in Indonesia, state Islamic university has female Rector, she leads the university and all Madrasah students who want to study Islam go to this university. We have one in every province with majority Muslim population.

This UIN Sharif Hidayatullah Jakarta, Islamic University with many Islamic study until Doctoral degree. The location is near Jakarta and the center or the most respected in all Islamic study universities across Indonesia that all are state owned. In here there also many non-Islamic studies like Medical, Psychology, and other. It is like Al Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt.

The rector is female, Prof Doctor Amany Lubis. (From her name she comes from North Sumatra). Doctorate degree is similar like Phd in USA.

This is why I bring this video from Prof Doctor Quraish Shihab, here he is with his own daughter who is a respected journalist in Indonesia, Najwa Shihab. He respect her daughter decision to not wear hijab as Hijab is personal domain ibadah, like prayer and others that cannot be forced in term of the implementation except by the person him/herselves

The main theme of the conversation here is Islam which is misunderstood. He was also previously a rector of UIN Sharif Hidayatullah Islamic University Jakarta.

Islam yang Disalahpahami | Shihab & Shihab

@mike2000 is back

 

[Saho]

You can picture that.

 

[gambit]

For arts the western countries are known for making ****, legalizing prostitution, gay marriages, child rape, abortion, hate, racism, indiscriminate massacre of other religions and races, for STEM all your high tech couldn't do jack shit about rigged up illiterate rag tag Taliban's who riggup those Toyota trucks.

I know you are hurt, my condolences on the beginning of the end of your so called American Century.

And now we see desperate Afghan mothers handling their children over the Americans. How many of those babies and toddlers are girls?

Child rape? Sounds like common Taliban practice.

Me hurt? No. If you want to see who is truly hurt, go look in the mirror.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Chill out, the weather is already too hot

And now we see desperate Afghan mothers handling their children over the Americans. How many of those babies and toddlers are girls?

Child rape? Sounds like common Taliban practice.

Me hurt? No. If you want to see who is truly hurt, go look in the mirror.

 

[Thorough Pro]

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]