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With Lal Masjid standoff unresolved, another cleric occupies state-owned mosque in Islamabad

Kalbe Ali

February 22, 2020

With government authorities still struggling to finalise a settlement to end the standoff with former khateeb Maulana Abdul Aziz at Lal Masjid, another dispute is brewing at another state-owned mosque, Masjid-e-Shuhada, in Islamabad's Aabpara area.

The Auqaf Department, which oversees the affairs of mosques in the capital territory, has been ignoring the rift at Masjid-e-Shuhada for five months, resulting in frequent scuffles between the supporters of the official cleric at the mosque and the cleric who was supposed to retire last year but refused to abide by government orders to vacate the mosque.

The dispute at the heart of this crisis originated when Maulana Amir Siddique, the former naib khateeb of Lal Masjid, was appointed as the chief cleric of Masjid-e-Shuhada after the mosque’s previous cleric Maulana Ghulam Rasool retired after reaching the age of 60. However, Rasool refused to abide by the retirement and not only is he still staying at the official residence of the mosque for the past two years but also continues to occupy one of the shops there.

His supporters have since then refused to allow Maulana Siddique, who is the nephew of Maulana Aziz, to lead the prayers at the mosque, which compelled him to approach the Aabpara police station to file a complaint – which was followed by a counter police complaint filed by Maulana Rasool.

While speaking to Dawn, Maulana Siddique shared his concerns about the developments: “This is unfair that the police did not entertain my application despite having legal standing only because I am not as strong and powerful as the other cleric.”

Meanwhile, Maulana Rasool too complained that police were not registering a report over their application against Maulana Siddique whom he accused of trying to create a law and order situation at the mosque.

Since there is no residential area around Masjid-e-Shuhada, the majority of those attending the prayers there are traders and shopkeepers from the Aabpara market. One of the leaders of the traders’ community, Ajmal Baloch, told Dawn that it is the responsibility of the Auqaf Department to ensure the implementation of the law and thus ensure that the cleric they appointed is allowed to lead prayers at the mosque.

“How can Maulana Ghulam Rasool, or anyone else for that matter, claim that this is his family mosque? The state needs to implement the writ of the law,” said Baloch.

Another senior trade leader at Aabpara market, Younis Qureshi, told Dawn that the root cause of the dispute at Masjid-e-Shuhada was the failure of the Auqaf Department to hold elections of the Masjid Committee.

He said while the government continues its efforts to eradicate extremism from society, it is failing in its duty to maintain control over mosques. "Maulana Ghulam Rasool refused to let Maulana Amir Siddique lead the prayers because he accused the latter of having ties to the Shia and Barelvi sects and the security establishment. Those making these charges should be tried under the National Action Plan.”

He added that the dispute was, in essence, a monetary one and that there has never been an audit of the finances of the mosque and its affiliated seminary.

Asked about the dispute, one member of the Masjid Committee, Farooq Kiani, denied that elections of the mosque have not taken place and instead claimed that polls were held regularly with the last one taking place a year ago.

Kiani further claimed that the conflict was “resolved” on the demand of locals and Maulana Siddique was transferred to Masjid Kausar near Polyclinic Hospital with the cleric at that mosque, Maulana Ashfaq, taking his place at Masjid-e-Shuhada.

It is worth noting that Maulana Ashfaq, who is the younger brother of Maulana Rasool, has been leading prayers at the mosque but the notification of his transfer has not yet been issued by the Auqaf Department.

When asked about the ongoing dispute at the mosque, an official at the Auqaf Department told Dawn that the department's director was on leave and that the department did not have enough resources to conduct timely elections at all mosques. “We cannot force any decision on the masses. Besides, by and large, there have not been many serious issues with mosque committees in Islamabad. There were no concerns with the committee at Masjid-e-Shuhada, therefore the existing committee has continued to work for a long period,” the official said.

Amongst the responsibilities of the Auqaf Department is overseeing the affairs of mosques and shrines in Islamabad and ensuring the equitable distribution of mosques among the four main schools of thought in the country – Shia, Deobandi, Barelvi and Ahle Hadees. There are around 86 state-owned mosques in Islamabad and around 1,000 mosques registered with the Auqaf Department are situated on either private land or on occupied land.

Given that the Auqaf Department does not require mosques and seminaries to show proof of ownership of land on which they are built, the number of illegal mosques and seminaries has only increased over time.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1536023/w...eric-occupies-state-owned-mosque-in-islamabad
 
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With Lal Masjid standoff unresolved, another cleric occupies state-owned mosque in Islamabad

Kalbe Ali

February 22, 2020

With government authorities still struggling to finalise a settlement to end the standoff with former khateeb Maulana Abdul Aziz at Lal Masjid, another dispute is brewing at another state-owned mosque, Masjid-e-Shuhada, in Islamabad's Aabpara area.

The Auqaf Department, which oversees the affairs of mosques in the capital territory, has been ignoring the rift at Masjid-e-Shuhada for five months, resulting in frequent scuffles between the supporters of the official cleric at the mosque and the cleric who was supposed to retire last year but refused to abide by government orders to vacate the mosque.

The dispute at the heart of this crisis originated when Maulana Amir Siddique, the former naib khateeb of Lal Masjid, was appointed as the chief cleric of Masjid-e-Shuhada after the mosque’s previous cleric Maulana Ghulam Rasool retired after reaching the age of 60. However, Rasool refused to abide by the retirement and not only is he still staying at the official residence of the mosque for the past two years but also continues to occupy one of the shops there.

His supporters have since then refused to allow Maulana Siddique, who is the nephew of Maulana Aziz, to lead the prayers at the mosque, which compelled him to approach the Aabpara police station to file a complaint – which was followed by a counter police complaint filed by Maulana Rasool.

While speaking to Dawn, Maulana Siddique shared his concerns about the developments: “This is unfair that the police did not entertain my application despite having legal standing only because I am not as strong and powerful as the other cleric.”

Meanwhile, Maulana Rasool too complained that police were not registering a report over their application against Maulana Siddique whom he accused of trying to create a law and order situation at the mosque.

Since there is no residential area around Masjid-e-Shuhada, the majority of those attending the prayers there are traders and shopkeepers from the Aabpara market. One of the leaders of the traders’ community, Ajmal Baloch, told Dawn that it is the responsibility of the Auqaf Department to ensure the implementation of the law and thus ensure that the cleric they appointed is allowed to lead prayers at the mosque.

“How can Maulana Ghulam Rasool, or anyone else for that matter, claim that this is his family mosque? The state needs to implement the writ of the law,” said Baloch.

Another senior trade leader at Aabpara market, Younis Qureshi, told Dawn that the root cause of the dispute at Masjid-e-Shuhada was the failure of the Auqaf Department to hold elections of the Masjid Committee.

He said while the government continues its efforts to eradicate extremism from society, it is failing in its duty to maintain control over mosques. "Maulana Ghulam Rasool refused to let Maulana Amir Siddique lead the prayers because he accused the latter of having ties to the Shia and Barelvi sects and the security establishment. Those making these charges should be tried under the National Action Plan.”

He added that the dispute was, in essence, a monetary one and that there has never been an audit of the finances of the mosque and its affiliated seminary.

Asked about the dispute, one member of the Masjid Committee, Farooq Kiani, denied that elections of the mosque have not taken place and instead claimed that polls were held regularly with the last one taking place a year ago.

Kiani further claimed that the conflict was “resolved” on the demand of locals and Maulana Siddique was transferred to Masjid Kausar near Polyclinic Hospital with the cleric at that mosque, Maulana Ashfaq, taking his place at Masjid-e-Shuhada.

It is worth noting that Maulana Ashfaq, who is the younger brother of Maulana Rasool, has been leading prayers at the mosque but the notification of his transfer has not yet been issued by the Auqaf Department.

When asked about the ongoing dispute at the mosque, an official at the Auqaf Department told Dawn that the department's director was on leave and that the department did not have enough resources to conduct timely elections at all mosques. “We cannot force any decision on the masses. Besides, by and large, there have not been many serious issues with mosque committees in Islamabad. There were no concerns with the committee at Masjid-e-Shuhada, therefore the existing committee has continued to work for a long period,” the official said.

Amongst the responsibilities of the Auqaf Department is overseeing the affairs of mosques and shrines in Islamabad and ensuring the equitable distribution of mosques among the four main schools of thought in the country – Shia, Deobandi, Barelvi and Ahle Hadees. There are around 86 state-owned mosques in Islamabad and around 1,000 mosques registered with the Auqaf Department are situated on either private land or on occupied land.

Given that the Auqaf Department does not require mosques and seminaries to show proof of ownership of land on which they are built, the number of illegal mosques and seminaries has only increased over time.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1536023/w...eric-occupies-state-owned-mosque-in-islamabad
When you talk flying it's a aviators arena, when talking medicine it's doctor who calls the shots, when talking battles you let soldiers take the lead etc etc.

The problem with Pakistan is by having the "Pakistan ka matlab kya, La Illaha Illal Allah" as it's dictum the playing field is open to mullahs. If Islam is the driving force of Pakistan then the mullahs are qualified to ruyn and 'own' it. You can see the results.
 
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The Auqaf Department
this dept needs to be slapped awake! How can you ignore issues to the point they become state security issues? Should the army also control mosques since civilian dont know or cant handle basics?

the former naib khateeb of Lal Masjid, was appointed as the chief cleric of Masjid-e-Shuhada
Genius!

Destroy 1 area, lets go for another by pulling parts of the disturbed area and spreading it around like a moron?!
 
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When you talk flying it's a aviators arena, when talking medicine it's doctor who calls the shots, when talking battles you let soldiers take the lead etc etc.

The problem with Pakistan is by having the "Pakistan ka matlab kya, La Illaha Illal Allah" as it's dictum the playing field is open to mullahs. If Islam is the driving force of Pakistan then the mullahs are qualified to ruyn and 'own' it. You can see the results.
The counter is that Islam is not confined to Mullahs.
Mullahs called Pakistan napakistan and Quaid Azam as Kafir Azam so they shouldnt be allowed to own it. but then again they are not asking either.
 
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The counter is that Islam is not confined to Mullahs.
In theory your right as we do not have clergy in Islam. However the reality is we do have a class of people who are looked as men of religion and we call that group mullahs. This is widely practiced fact. When people need medical opinion we go to doctors. When it relates to matters of religion mullahs hold the fort. This is widely practiced fact in Pakistan and across the world.

Therefore in any state that calls itself Islamic republic automatically elevates the mullah class by it's very nature. Whether this is explicit [Iran] or implicit [Pakistan]. So it comes as no surprise that mullahs from the day the British left began to gain ground. Initially they were held back by the brown sahibs left over by the British but as that cohort retired and went into oblivion the local mullah began to assert himself.

And here we are in 2020.


Ps. Have you ever heard mullahs in Turkey trying to take over mosques or politiking like Rizvi? Never. Because as a secular state they were muzzled and tamed back in 1920s.
 
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Job and property ka masla ha. A molvi is not vacating government house after his retirement and is still leading the prayers. And newly appointed molvi sahab has filed complaint against him in police station.
And what do you think is about 9 out of 10 times? Money and power. It's bought use of religion [by mullahs] to extrract power, position, money and influence on society. Go ask anybody who is older than 75 and they will tell you mullahs used to be the poorest, weakest members of society. Today many drive arounds in 4 by 4s, delve in national politics and are power toi be reckoned with. The Chinese in fact have a term foir this. "Profiteering from religion".

Mulah diesel is star example.

In the last 70 years we have had more religion, more preaching, more mullah power pumped into every orifice of Pakistanbi society. Yet have a look at it. It is far more amoral, criminal, corrupt etc then it ever was. Shows you that Mullahs have not nurtured a just society. Because it never was about just society but dollars and power ...
 
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this dept needs to be slapped awake! How can you ignore issues to the point they become state security issues? Should the army also control mosques since civilian dont know or cant handle basics?

Genius!
Destroy 1 area, lets go for another by pulling parts of the disturbed area and spreading it around like a moron?!

The counter is that Islam is not confined to Mullahs.
Mullahs called Pakistan napakistan and Quaid Azam as Kafir Azam so they shouldnt be allowed to own it. but then again they are not asking either.

I find it interesting that every retard from across the globe would find such isolated incidents and then try and establish that somehow Pakistanis in general are extremist in nature and support these idiotic ignorant mullahs as a nation.

Religious parties even extremist outfits have been doing politics in subcontinent for almost 100 years now, not even a single time in our history has a religious party got enough votes to establish a Govt in any province or center. Please don't get me started on MMA setup in KPK/Baluchistan during Musharraf era, we all know how "fairly managed" those elections were. Batch-mate of mine was working somewhere near CMH Rawalpindi and I know how results were made and announced.

If we look at the population growth rate and the percentage of votes every religious party got during the last many elections we will see that the number of votes in percentage terms right from 70s to 2019 are declining rapidly.

Whereas if I look across our eastern border or europe or rest of the world a religious extremist central Govt exists, and political parties with extremist philosophy or Islamophobic to be exact are on the rise. In fact a dear brother of ours who has pledged to invest over $70 billion in various sectors of our dear eastern neighbor is nothing less than an extremist setup, or biggest oil trade partner of our dear neighbor whose chabahar port was developed by our neighbor is nothing less than an extremist setup. Both these dear business partners are responsible for more death and sufferings in the world than both world wars combined.

So why us? is it because of our ridiculous sense of hospitality where we allow every tom, dick, harry and cretin to come visit our boards/websites and try to convince us that we are extremist in nature or something else. I say one thing to such people f off. As for "dawn" we all know what they are headed by a g*y ba**ard whose life is fixed on anti Pakistan everything.
 
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