Will there be a war between US and China?

[Song Hong]

First, as the strategic mutual trust between China and the US has almost evaporated and the US has strengthened its military presence in China's close neighborhood, the risk of accidental military frictions between China and the US has increased compared with the past. Moreover, when and if such friction occurs, it will be more politically difficult to keep it under control through peaceful means or to stop it from simmering beyond peaceful intentions.

Second, neither China nor the US wants a military conflict with the other side. Although both militaries are preparing for the worst-case scenario, neither wants a military showdown. There is therefore room for both sides to manage risks and avoid a military crisis.

Third, China is peace-loving in nature. We have no ambition to establish hegemony and replace the US. We will not go further in the Pacific or the Indian Ocean to challenge US interests. China has a profound historical conclusion that a belligerent state will eventually perish. China is a cautious major country.

Fourth, China has a very restrained definition of its core interests, all of which are as close as just on its doorstep. But if China, as a great power, is still subjected to serious military provocation, we have nothing to think about except for taking the challenge. China will take the call and will surely defeat the US on our doorstep. When it comes to our ability to mobilize people and resources to safeguard China's core interests, when it comes to the will to fight to the end, Washington can hardly compare with Beijing, and Washington knows this better than we do.

Even though I don't know what the lowest ebb in US-China relations might be, I know China has a clear principle that makes hegemons like the US cautious when making moves around China. Of course, I hope that China and the US can manage all accidents well.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1194907.shtml#.XxQ5YFzUgFA.facebook

 

[BHAN85]

Third, China is peace-loving in nature. We have no ambition to establish hegemony and replace the US. We will not go further in the Pacific or the Indian Ocean to challenge US interests. China has a profound historical conclusion that a belligerent state will eventually perish. China is a cautious major country.

Not a country is peace-loving, neither China, neither any other country.

War is a bussiness like any other.

If you can get more profits doing a war than not doing a war, you will do a war.

Said that.

Peace between them rely in their SSBN and Sosus system.
If someday USA could get the position of Chinese SSBN, they will attack it.
And if someday China could get the position of USA SSBN, they will attack too.

 

[Daniel808]

1. In 1946-1949, when their KMT (ROC) Ally asking many times for US Troops (The Winner of WW2) assistance against PRC troops from Northern China, Central China, East China, South China, and until they retreated to Taiwan island. STILL NO US Troops send to fight PRC.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Civil_War

2. In 1949, The PRC troops bombed and killing Royal Navy Soldiers (Britain) still NO US or any UK troops as the winner of World War 2 dare to fight those China troops.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amethyst_Incident

3. In 1950-1953, when Chinese killing and embarass MacArthur and US troops in Yalu and Battle of Chosin Reservoir, retake Pyongyang and Seoul, and Hold the US and their ally to stalemate in 38th Parallel.
Even KMT (Taiwan ROC) already offered US to open a new front in Mainland China, with attacking China from the South.

Still US ignore those offer and not dare to open a larger front with Chinese troops. And insist the war to be limited in Korean Peninsula only until the war over in 1953.
(That's why North Korean still alive until today)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

4. In 1962, China (One of the prominent enemy of US, and every people think US must be want to revenge what they did in Korean War) invading Indian. But still NO HELP from US to confront China directly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

5. In 1974 the Chinese spanked One of the most important ally (South Vietnam), even with 7th Fleet protecting south vietnam in SCS. Still US NOT DARE to Confront China directly. And China successfully
Retake all Paracel Islands from South vietnam.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands

6. In 1988, Chinese spanked Vietnam and sucessfully retake Johnson South Reef in Spratly islands SCS. Still NO US Troops send to confront China directly
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_South_Reef_Skirmish

7. In 2012, there is Scarborough Shoal Standoff between China and Phillipines (US Ally) resulting in China retake Scharborough Shoal from Phillipines, still NO US HELP send to help their ally and confront China directly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarborough_Shoal_standoff#:~:text=The Scarborough Shoal standoff refers,in the disputed Scarborough Shoal.

8. In 2014 there is a Standoff between China and Vietnam, because China moving an Oil Rig (Hai Yang Shihou 981) to SCS still NO HELP from US to confront China directly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai_Yang_Shi_You_981_standoff

9. From 2013 to the beginning of 2018, China carried out land reclamation in the South China Sea. The construction of the islands and military bases over SCS has been completed. The three island airports of Meiji Reef, Zhubi Reef, and Yongshu Reef have been completed.

And STILL NO US TROOPS Send to prevent China building Unsinkable Aircraft Carrier in South China Sea. Giving China's Navy much leverage in SCS.

10. And now in 2020 with the new Cold War between China and US. With China invading Indian in Ladakh and Retake their Territory in Ladakh, killing Indian troops and Commander in the process. Still NO US Troops send to confront China directly

Do you still think those Americans want to sacrifice their lives, soldiers, and home to Confront a Powerful Nuclear Country like China for other people cause?

Yeah, keep WET Dreaming

 

[mmr]

No.

 

[tower9]

Even though the results will be disastrous, the US deep state is moving towards war every passing day because of a sense of desperation. Each day, China closes the gap in power so it is now or never.

 

[Viet]

Even though the results will be disastrous, the US deep state is moving towards war every passing day because of a sense of desperation. Each day, China closes the gap in power so it is now or never.

The next move of the US seems to forbid the use of USD in HK. Once forbidden, HK will lose the status of financial center and robs China the source of USD. Interesting time ahead.

 

[Beast]

Not a country is peace-loving, neither China, neither any other country.

War is a bussiness like any other.

If you can get more profits doing a war than not doing a war, you will do a war.

Said that.

Peace between them rely in their SSBN and Sosus system.
If someday USA could get the position of Chinese SSBN, they will attack it.
And if someday China could get the position of USA SSBN, they will attack too.

Nonsense. US is declining, they are not competitive to Chinese economy model. War mongering and try disruptive to continue Chinese growth is American aim.

Chinese are competitive and hardworking people. What Chinese need is peace and constant growth. This is what American cant allow China to have.

The American encourage their allies to provoke China and intrude their land and when China just try to defend their land and interest, American will shout Chinese as invader/aggressor and utilize it global propaganda media to smear China.

Did a Chinese spy hide behind and force Pompeo to speak those words? No, a liar admit his crime.

 

[waqasmwi]

Some people say that yes, there will be a war b/w USA and China due to Thucydides Trap.

 

[Song Hong]

There will definitely be a war between US and China, and this will be the war of Armageddon. It is coming. The demonic US will be destroyed by China.

 

[Beast]

Some people say that yes, there will be a war b/w USA and China due to Thucydides Trap.

I think the chances is very low. Even during Cold war at peak. Soviet and US didnt come to blow as they know a war between them will be end of war or nuclear war.

China may not have the amount of warhead compare to US but China has the mean to wipe US off the globe. DF-41 with 10 warhead and Type094 SSBN, not to mention the non interceptable DF-17 hypersonic wave glider.

US would have long attack and war with China if China didnt have the mean to destroy US.

Dont worry! US will bark but they are no idiot to seek death.

 

[bolo]

The next move of the US seems to forbid the use of USD in HK

This shows you really do not understand how USD-HK work. The ban of USD in HK would be a blessing for China and HK.

 

[Viet]

This shows you really do not understand how USD-HK work. The ban of USD in HK would be a blessing for China and HK.

Really? Pls explain!
How blessing when the yuan is not convertible, not widespread accepted outside China, maybe exceptional in Cambodia, almost nil chance for foreigners to open bank account, impossible to buy chinese assets in China equity markets?

While it’s just three clicks away to do with USD and US assets.

 

[bolo]

Really? Pls explain!
How blessing when the yuan is not convertible, not widespread accepted outside China, maybe exceptional in Cambodia, almost nil chance for foreigners to open bank account, impossible to buy chinese assets in China equity markets?

While it’s just three clicks away to do with USD and US assets.

The US use HK as a proxy to move money into China. Part of the reason HK properties are so expensive is unlimited USD is flooding into HK due to printing.. US companies make billions in HK alone each year.
HK is mainly a stopover for foreign currency before it goes to mainland China. Renminbi conversion for world use is done in the mainland, primarily in Shanghai.
US pulling not recognizing HK as special status will harm US more than than HK.

 

[Daniel808]

真的，兄弟。

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I didn't know, UC editors often visit this website.
Please say hello to him, brother. I wish you all the best.

Thank you for your screen. Hahaha.

 

[Viet]

The US use HK as a proxy to move money into China. Part of the reason HK properties are so expensive is unlimited USD is flooding into HK due to printing.. US companies make billions in HK alone each year.
HK is mainly a stopover for foreign currency before it goes to mainland China. Renminbi conversion for world use is done in the mainland, primarily in Shanghai.
US pulling not recognizing HK as special status will harm US more than than HK.

Proxy sounds bad but it serves the purposes.
HK is a easy place to do business while it’s more difficult to impossible to do the same in mainland.
If you are not chinese that want to do business in mainland then you can lose the last penny the last underwear. Without “relationship“ in China you can’t do anything. Hence many westerners employ HK service HK people to deal with mainland Chinese.

If HK is degraded to a x or y faceless chinese city, then less foreigners will come to do business with HK, and as result in less business with China. Chinese are notorious racists.