Will Erdogan announce on July 20th the annexation of the occupied territories of Cyprus?

[Foinikas]

Thank you for your unbiased perspective.

For anyone who interprets the processes by comparing them with historical documents and information, not social media or the populist statements of funded senators, the situation is crystal clear.

His "unbiased perspective"?

 

[dBSPL]

You don't know anything about the internal Turkish dynamics and still you talk as if you're a politicial correspondent working from Ankara for the last 30 years.

HDP got the votes from Turkish leftists because the party had represented itself as a generally left alternative by radically dialing down its Kurdish profile. This was the secret to its success. They got votes from Turkish provinces for the first time in their history.

Cihangir type leftists or freshwater leftists (one of the names given to SJW type leftists in Turkiye, -for those unfamiliar with Turkish politics terminology-) had campaigned to vote for HDP to enter parliament (the election threshold was 10% at that time, now 7%). Then some of these votes became permanent because they are now the most important political representatives of LGBTs, SJWs etc, and Soros-type foundations&organizations.

Apart from the mainstream centre-left CHP voters, there is the fact that the HDP has become the umbrella party of the Turkish non-national-left voters with a Marxist-Leninist or some other fractions, to a degree that has already become more evident with the Gezi events process.

It is a religious party in the southeast, a fag-rights defender in the west, a feudal organization whose packaging is left ideologies, and a criminal party where deputies carry weapons and drugs to terrorist organizations in their cars.

No party in Europe has survived with so much crime like that. In Spain, England, France, all these states closed these parties and put their members on trial. However, during our AKP period, an incredible area of freedom was created for this party organically linked to terrorism, which did not deny its ties to the PKK terrorist organization.

 

[Foinikas]

Cihangir type leftists or freshwater leftists (one of the names given to SJW type leftists in Turkiye, -for those unfamiliar with Turkish politics terminology-) had campaigned to vote for HDP to enter parliament (the election threshold was 10% at that time, now 7%). Then some of these votes became permanent because they are now the most important political representatives of LGBTs, SJWs etc, and Soros-type foundations&organizations.

Apart from the mainstream centre-left CHP voters, there is the fact that the HDP has become the umbrella party of the Turkish left voters with a Marxist-Leninist or some other fractions, to a degree that has already become more evident with the Gezi events process.

It is a religious party in the southeast, a fag-rights defender in the west, a feudal organization whose packaging is left ideologies, and a criminal party where deputies carry weapons and drugs to terrorist organizations in their cars.

No party in Europe has survived with so much crime like that. In Spain, England, France, all these states closed these parties and put their members on trial. However, during our AKP period, an incredible area of freedom was created for this terrorist organization, which did not deny its ties to the PKK terrorist organization.

Wait a minute,HDP is Deva Party or something else? And why is CHP considered centre-left? I thought it was center-right,being Kemalist and all.

 

[Oublious]

What a crap of load from Greece side, they refused Annan plan, they started the war in Cyprus. We are 50 years further and still they are farting, ther will come time we need to get rid of them. Look to Karabagh, 30 years of western bullshitting. In 3 months Azerbadjian solved ther problem.

 

[Foinikas]

What a crap of load from Greece side, they refused Annan plan, they started the war in Cyprus. We are 50 years further and still they are farting, ther will come time we need to get rid of them. Look to Karabagh, 30 years of western bullshitting. In 3 months Azerbadjian solved ther problem.

Did you even read why they rejected the Annan plan? We didn't start the war in Cyprus. You invaded. You want to solve this like Azerbaijan? Well try,you will just destabilize the entire region now that there's war in Ukraine and NATO doesn't another conflict southeast.

 

[Oublious]

Did you even read why they rejected the Annan plan? We didn't start the war in Cyprus. You invaded. You want to solve this like Azerbaijan? Well try,you will just destabilize the entire region now that there's war in Ukraine and NATO doesn't another conflict southeast.

lol

you didn't started the war , killing poor people is act of war. Fak nato and west with ther diplomacy! 50 years later still talking with a country refusing deal and claiming everything. The war inUkrain is fault of Nato specially Americans. Pushing Ukrain against Russia like Georgia and losing county.


your rejection of annan plan is againg crap of load....

 

[Foinikas]

lol

you didn't started the war , killing poor people is act of war. Fak nato and west with ther diplomacy! 50 years later still talking with a country refusing deal and claiming everything. The war inUkrain is fault of Nato specially Americans. Pushing Ukrain against Russia like Georgia and losing county.


your rejection of annan plan is againg crap of load....

I'll ask you again,did you read why they rejected the Annan plan?

 

[dBSPL]

Wait a minute,HDP is Deva Party or something else? And why is CHP considered centre-left? I thought it was center-right,being Kemalist and all.

The party is traditionally left/centre wing representative, especially after the merger with the SHP. But the current power model promised by the CHP is a different version of the 2002 model AKP or its projection adapted to the left. Unfortunately, I am very sorry to seeing that the party is up to names like CIA's TR-705 agent who promised to stop Turkiye's production of drones, or NATO spokesperson Çeviköz etc. I am also very sad to see a party leader who kissing the forehead of people affiliated with the FETO terrorist organization and demanded the release of a criminals who tried to provoke a civil war in Turkiye. Ulusalcılar (Atatürkist Nationalists), were largely excluded, and the influence of those who remained was limited by 'new CHP'.

When I saying left; Those who are familiar with the political history and structures of Turkiye should not misunderstand, I am not talking about anything independent from an Atlanticist structure and its gladio.

This degeneration in Turkish politics is creating a big bottom wave.

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DEVA party, lol. Just take a look at the backround of the leader of this party and their media figures, it has nothing to do with the left. I'm really amazed at how ignorant you are about Turkish politics. Until these years, always I thought you could follow these topics well. In Greece, the older generation was much better. People nowadays don't waste their time on anything.

 

[Kedikesenfare2]

I'll ask you again,did you read why they rejected the Annan plan?

I'd like you to understand that Greek fascists started the war in Cyprus and no amount of lies is going to change this fact.

 

[Foinikas]

DEVA party, lol. Just take a look at the backround of the leader of this party and their media figures, it has nothing to do with the left. I'm really amazed at how ignorant you are about Turkish politics. Until these years, always I thought you could follow these topics well. In Greece, the older generation was much better. People nowadays don't waste their time on anything.

I know DEVA is supposed to be a pro-Kurdish party and usually those who support the Kurds are leftists. You don't have to insult me,I could have easily googled all that stuff,but instead I preferred to have a discussion with you.
There's parties merging,new parties appearing,do you for example know everything that has happened in Greece politically,the last 10 years?

But of course,in a moment when I try to be friendly and discuss something with you,ask you about something,you just mock me.

I'd like you to understand that Greek fascists started the war in Cyprus and no amount of lies is going to change this fact.

The situation in Cyprus was bad. Both the government and the coup,did a lot of mistakes and brought instability and almost a Greek Cypriot civil war. And that's the chance Turkey had been looking for to invade. And you invaded. And NATO did nothing. So there,you have the northern part of Cyprus now.

 

[dBSPL]

I know DEVA is supposed to be a pro-Kurdish party and usually those who support the Kurds are leftists. You don't have to insult me,I could have easily googled all that stuff,but instead I preferred to have a discussion with you.
There's parties merging,new parties appearing,do you for example know everything that has happened in Greece politically,the last 10 years?

But of course,in a moment when I try to be friendly and discuss something with you,ask you about something,you just mock me.

If you're offended, I assure you I didn't mean to insult you. Unfortunately, the English equivalent of many words with nuances in my language are usually one word. However, I apologize, to express that my intentions were not malicious.

By the way, the Deva party is neither a leftist nor a Kurdish party. It is simply an Atlanticist party with a new gen of conservatism sauce that yearns for the founding period of AKP. Its leader is a former AKP minister of foreign affairs and later economy.

 

[dBSPL]

10 days left.

Then, every day I will start to keep this thread at top on the forum, by tagging Mods .

Because everyone in the forum should understand this post-truth and false propaganda tactics.

 

[Akritas]

Fak nato and west with ther diplomacy!

Turkish Diplomacy in 7 words. I would just add the.... UN.

10 days left.

Then, every day I will start to keep this thread at top on the forum, by tagging Mods .

Because everyone in the forum should understand this post-truth and false propaganda tactics.

I didnt catch you;
Are you threatening us?
Do you think you are in your Turkish forum?

 

[Akritas]

From the Turkish perspective, the Cyprus situation is resolved. Its only the Greeks who feel its "unresolved",

Look, Turkey generally gives solutions through weapenization, and not through peace processes. This is especially evident in recent years with turkish invasions of Iraq and Syria, its armed involvement in Libya, etc.
In any case, the Cyprus issue is an issue that will haunt you as long as there is an occupying Turkish army, as long as there is a UN and as long as there is an EU.

 

[jamahir]

I hope they do

Phull sapport saar from desi mullah.

Look, Turkey generally gives solutions through weapenization, and not through peace processes. This is especially evident in recent years with turkish invasions of Iraq and Syria, its armed involvement in Libya, etc.

Agreed, though it's more Erdogan than Turkey. Many in Turkey disagree with Erdo boy's involvement in neighboring Syria much less across the sea in Libya.