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Do you think China is trying to change the status of Scs situation with force , money, technology.
Will China accept the reality of Scs ownership.
 
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You mean the status quo? Please elaborate.
 
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If the regional powers accepted the reality in the SCS, that would be the optimal approach.

Our problem is that Vietnam and the Philippines deny the reality. Then the question is: Will they ever accept the reality?

China is all about reality, which is ever changing and evolving, like the islands that have been evolving since the 1970s.

As for status quo, which can be anything (political, economic, social etc), status quo is what you make of it. The stronger national power you have, the more tools you have to reconfigure the status quo.

China is too powerful to be contained by some ephemeral status quo.

Small powers, on the other, are more under the influence of status quo.
 
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If the regional powers accepted the reality in the SCS, that would be the optimal approach.

Our problem is that Vietnam and the Philippines deny the reality. Then the question is: Will they ever accept the reality?

China is all about reality, which is ever changing and evolving, like the islands that have been evolving since the 1970s.

As for status quo, which can be anything (political, economic, social etc), status quo is what you make of it. The stronger national power you have, the more tools you have to reconfigure the status quo.

China is too powerful to be contained by some ephemeral status quo.

Small powers, on the other, are more under the influence of status quo.
I don't see we have problem. If you see a problem with you, don't try to blame others. either try to change it, improve your life, start a war or jump off the window to end your life. simple. nobody cares of. Accepting reality? you certainly mean chinese reality, don't you?

evedybody here is tired of your bullshit. small powers great powers. How about a rematch against burma. as a great military power you lost against the country. three times. I pity you.

Last, I appeal the OP to stop posting such nonsense threads. the likelyhood the chinese ease bullying, stopping aggression against vietnam and other smaller nations that stand up is lower than a BIG meteorite falls down from space and erases all lives on earth.
 
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We will not give up an inch of what is claimed by Chinese government. But people can coexist and share some economic benifits from a joint effort for development. The status quo is that nobody gets its nose on the natural resources in the areas within 9 -dotted lines...

If Vietnam or Phillipines dares to fire a shot we'll kick you out of the rocks in SCS, no matter how long you have stolen from us...
 
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If the regional powers accepted the reality in the SCS, that would be the optimal approach.

Our problem is that Vietnam and the Philippines deny the reality. Then the question is: Will they ever accept the reality?

China is all about reality, which is ever changing and evolving, like the islands that have been evolving since the 1970s.

As for status quo, which can be anything (political, economic, social etc), status quo is what you make of it. The stronger national power you have, the more tools you have to reconfigure the status quo.

China is too powerful to be contained by some ephemeral status quo.

Small powers, on the other, are more under the influence of status quo.

it's more like they didn't get the benefit of Chinese occupation in SCS. they should've sell the disputed area for the benefits of it and get the money to build their country but they didn't.

everyone wants some clay even though it's as useless as shit.
 
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The west side and south side of Paracel islands didn't see any fire shot .
 
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Nothing is permanent, if you have the will and power, you can change the status quo.
We outsider will just prepare our popcorn first and waiting for the show...
 
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Agree with 14th floor. Nothing is permanent, including the world power. If look at the population distribution and structure of US, you will find out the US will be dominated by Latino and Black within 50 years. Even now, the US army is full of the immigrants who are fighting for a green card or citizenship. Does it sound like Rome empire? ~_~!

After the population of Latino and Black surpasses the White, the voting and democracy system will automatically give Latino and Black the political superiority. At that stage, I believe they will not tolerate the wealth occupied by White any more.

2016 election will be a big choice for American. Trump is the only hopeful candidate to maintain US empire I know so far.
 
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We are still having a hard time accepting the reality that Vietnam was stolen from us by the French.

don't lie.

Islands belong to Vietnam from long time ago in the past, from time of our southern warloords in Le dynasty, and Nguyen dynasty. Greedy Chinese can not swallow our reefs and islands.
 
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I don't see we have problem. If you see a problem with you, don't try to blame others. either try to change it, improve your life, start a war or jump off the window to end your life. simple. nobody cares of. Accepting reality? you certainly mean chinese reality, don't you?

We are fine with the situation (reality and status quo), as well. Why start a war when benefits can be accrued through peaceful and development-oriented methods. In the end, it is the entire region that receives a lot of public goods from China's development efforts. It is the China engine that literally keeps the world economy afloat since 2008. And the region has benefited from China especially since 1997.

Of course I mean China's reality, which is, your and others' reality, as well. And it can be observed that you actually are coming to terms with those gradually.

evedybody here is tired of your bullshit. small powers great powers. How about a rematch against burma. as a great military power you lost against the country. three times. I pity you.

Most people I know of is glad for and thankful to China's contribution to regional and global peace and development. Global power transitions are always chaotic and painful. But China has so far managed it exceptionally well.
 
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Most people I know of is glad for and thankful to China's contribution to regional and global peace and development. Global power transitions are always chaotic and painful. But China has so far managed it exceptionally well.
Then we can conclude that you know only yourself.

From Third World to First: The Singapore Story - 1965-2000: Lee Kuan Yew: 9780060197766: Amazon.com: Books
Chapter 37

Deng Xiaoping's China

The Malaysians must be suspicious of Deng. There were underlying suspicions and animosity between Malay Muslims and Chinese in Malaysia, and between Indonesians and their ethnic Chinese. Because China was exporting revolution to Southeast Asia, my Asean neighbors wanted Singapore to rally with them, not against the Soviet Union, but against China.

Asean governments regarded radio broadcasts from China appealing directly to their ethnic Chinese as dangerous subversion. Deng listented silently. He had never seen it this light: China, a big foreign power, going over the governments of the region to subvert their citizens. I said it was most unlikely that Asean countries would respond positively to his proposal for a united front against the Soviet Union and Vietnam and suggested that we discuss on how to resolve this problem. Then I paused.

Deng's expression and body language registered consternation. He knew that I had spoken the truth. Abruptly, he asked, "What do you want me to do?" I was astonished. I had never met a communist leader who was prepared to depart from his brief when confronted with reality, much less ask what I wanted him to do. I had expected him to brush my points aside as Premier Hua Guofeng had done in Beijing in 1976 when I pressed him over the inconsistency of China's supporting the Malayan Communist Party to foment revolution in Singapore, not Malaya. Hua had answered with bluster, "I do not know the details, but whenever communists fight, they will win." Not Deng. He realized that he had to face up to this problem if Vietnam was to be isolated. I hesitated to tell this seasoned, weather-beaten revolutionary what he should do, but since he had asked me, I said, "Stop such radio broadcasts; stop such appeals. It will be better for the ethnic Chinese in Asean if China does not underline their kinship and call upon their ethnic sympathy. The suspicion of the indigenous peoples will always be there, whether or not China emphasizes these blood ties. But if China appeals to these blood ties so blatantly, it must increase their suspicions, China must stop radio broadcasts from south China by the Malayan and Indonesian Communist Parties.
We can say most people we know are still suspicious of what China did not too long ago when China tried to foment racial animosity between Chinese and non-Chinese in just about all Asian countries wherever there are Chinese living in those countries. All in the name of Marxist/communist revolution. Who knows what China is cooking up in Beijing, eh ?
 
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