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[70U63]

Is there any communist ideology spreading around? You are from US don't have to use this excuse, leave it for people with third world mentality.

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We can say most people we know are still suspicious of what China did not too long ago when China tried to foment racial animosity between Chinese and non-Chinese in just about all Asian countries wherever there are Chinese living in those countries. All in the name of Marxist/communist revolution. Who knows what China is cooking up in Beijing, eh ?

 

[gambit]

Is there any communist ideology spreading around?

Yes, there are still hard core Marxists around. It does not matter if communism have been discredited or not. There are still those who believes in Marxism and would stop at nothing to impose communism on the world.

You are from US don't have to use this excuse, leave it for people with third world mentality.

China used racial ties to overseas Chinese living in other Asian countries to motivate them to start Marxist revolutions. It was serious enough that those Asian governments had to put their local Chinese communities under increased surveillance. It does not mean that China will not use race again to get overseas Chinese to work for China for other reasons.

 

[prima99]

China used racial ties to overseas Chinese living in other Asian countries to motivate them to start Marxist revolutions. It was serious enough that those Asian governments had to put their local Chinese communities under increased surveillance. It does not mean that China will not use race again to get overseas Chinese to work for China for other reasons.

nope, it doesn't work anymore. Chinese-Singaporean doesn't like PRC Chinese. they Royally hates each other. take a look at this

 

[Cossack25A1]

China used racial ties to overseas Chinese living in other Asian countries to motivate them to start Marxist revolutions. It was serious enough that those Asian governments had to put their local Chinese communities under increased surveillance. It does not mean that China will not use race again to get overseas Chinese to work for China for other reasons.

Well here in the Philippines there is the Communist Party of the Philippines that has the Mao Zedong Thought (Maoism) as their ideology and their armed lackeys, the New People's Army and their "social justice warriors/crybabies", the National Democratic Front.

And judging some old posts here in PDF by the PDF China Platoon, it is not far off that they will use Anti-Chinese sentiments in other Asian countries to exaggerate things.

 

[xunzi]

Well here in the Philippines there is the Communist Party of the Philippines that has the Mao Zedong Thought (Maoism) as their ideology and their armed lackeys, the New People's Army and their "social justice warriors/crybabies", the National Democratic Front.

And judging some old posts here in PDF by the PDF China Platoon, it is not far off that they will use Anti-Chinese sentiments in other Asian countries to exaggerate things.

If we have the intention to cause trouble in your country like our American friends did in the Middleeast, you think you would stand a chance? Listen, we have stop interfering in other country affair since a long time ago. Your accusation is groundless.

 

[TaiShang]

Chinja will never take the US way although it is perfectly capable of playing a similar game.

 

[Cossack25A1]

If we have the intention to cause trouble in your country like our American friends did in the Middleeast, you think you would stand a chance? Listen, we have stop interfering in other country affair since a long time ago. Your accusation is groundless.

But the fact is still there - that your government interfered with other countries before by supporting pro-China communist movements.

You cannot erase that fact!

 

[TaiShang]

But the fact is still there - that your government interfered with other countries before by supporting pro-China communist movements.

You cannot erase that fact!

Not ever since late 1970s.

China has for long stopped export of ideology. We do not care what ideology you may have. What we really care is how much Xiaomi we sell, not how much abstract ideas we might export.

That's useless.

The US, on the other hand, is all about ideology export even at the cost of leading to the death of millions.

 

[Cossack25A1]

Not ever since late 1970s.

China has for long stopped export of ideology. We do not care what ideology you may have. What we really care is how much Xiaomi we sell, not how much abstract ideas we might export.

That's useless.

The US, on the other hand, is all about ideology export even at the cost of leading to the death of millions.

Sooner or later, your government will do what the US is doing at present and what older powers had done before - using your economic and military might to undermine other countries.

And someone will curse you for it.

 

[70U63]

Nothing wrong with communism ideology. Don't forget Vietnam was also the victim of the ideology war. I don't want to judge whether which ideology is better. People always use some excuse to start war because for their own interest.

China used racial ties to overseas Chinese living in other Asian countries to motivate them to start Marxist revolutions. It was serious enough that those Asian governments had to put their local Chinese communities under increased surveillance. It does not mean that China will not use race again to get overseas Chinese to work for China for other reasons.

Guys, please come back to reality.
No country practice communism anymore.

China don't have to promote this ideology to others around the globe. Time have changed.

China's cards: Economy power, non-interference to internal politic of another nations, trade friendly, no string attached invesment, bla bla bla....

Western's cards: Democrazy (support both side), NGOs (freedom to everything), military, cyber spying (knew the secret of almost everyone), petro-dollar, western = higher class (especially for third world countries)

Final words, people like war, like to see others killing people as long as the victims are not them. Just like watching war movies

 

[TaiShang]

Sooner or later, your government will do what the US is doing at present and what older powers had done before - using your economic and military might to undermine other countries.

And someone will curse you for it.

In that case I will be the first one to criticize the foreign policy of China. If one day China attempts regime change, say, in Vietnam, through internal destabilization and/or financial sanctions like the US does today, I will be the first one to criticize it.

But, currently, China is not in the business of export of ideology (Marxist-Leninist thought). Definitely not in the business of minding others' internal affairs. We are perfectly fine with Vietnam's Communism, Russia's market economy or Singapore's technocracy.

But, certainly, China, like any other rational country, will utilize its economies of scale and other aspects of national power to promote and protect its national interests -- like how China sets up AIIB and the like to, first and foremost, to promote its own interests.

 

[gambit]

Nothing wrong with communism ideology.

Communism failed. It was not merely discarded because something else better came along. Democracy and capitalism existed alongside with communism and the people were able to see the contrasts. Under such conditions, one system must collapse. Guess which ?

Don't forget Vietnam was also the victim of the ideology war.

If China had stayed out of Viet Nam post WW II, there would be no such ideologically driven war.

I don't want to judge whether which ideology is better.

Then you are a coward.

People always use some excuse to start war because for their own interest.

This is one of those vague critiques of war designed to give the commentator a facade of intellectual sophistication. The criticism is as shallow as a rain puddle.

Guys, please come back to reality.
No country practice communism anymore.

China don't have to promote this ideology to others around the globe. Time have changed.

China CANNOT promote this ideology to anyone. Communism failed. So why would China promote a proven failed system ?

China's cards: Economy power, non-interference to internal politic of another nations, trade friendly, no string attached invesment, bla bla bla....

Bla bla bla is correct. China is proven to have interfered with the internal affairs of other countries during the Cold War. There is nothing to say that China will abandon such policy, especially now that China is even more financially involved in other countries than before. It is odd that if the US is involved with other countries, the US is automatically assumed to have 'interfered' with their affairs, but for China ? China is squeaky clean. Ask the Africans.

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[70U63]

Communism failed because no one able to implement it perfectly.

Communism failed. It was not merely discarded because something else better came along. Democracy and capitalism existed alongside with communism and the people were able to see the contrasts. Under such conditions, one system must collapse. Guess which ?

You must be living in your own world. Why people always like to use 'IF'. There is no 'IF' in history.

If China had stayed out of Viet Nam post WW II, there would be no such ideologically driven war.

I don't care whether you think I'm coward. But you (as your country) killed some many people because of ideology and so-called freedom. Thank you for your contribution, Mr. World Police.

Then you are a coward.

Again, because you are those who always think your thing is always the best. Some problem better let those people solve it themselves. Even US used some excuse to start wars.

This is one of those vague critiques of war designed to give the commentator a facade of intellectual sophistication. The criticism is as shallow as a rain puddle.

China don't have to promote anymore (we are talking now, year 2015, not just post-WW2). She already proved that there is a system (hybrid or whatever) suitable for her. Every nation have to find their own path.

China CANNOT promote this ideology to anyone. Communism failed. So why would China promote a proven failed system ?

Again, I'm talking about year 2015, not post-WW2.

Bla bla bla is correct. China is proven to have interfered with the internal affairs of other countries during the Cold War. There is nothing to say that China will abandon such policy, especially now that China is even more financially involved in other countries than before. It is odd that if the US is involved with other countries, the US is automatically assumed to have 'interfered' with their affairs, but for China ? China is squeaky clean. Ask the Africans.

 

[Sanchez]

Sooner or later, your government will do what the US is doing at present and what older powers had done before - using your economic and military might to undermine other countries.

And someone will curse you for it.

I like this comment. The fact is if you are not comfortable with the Chinese way now, so China would have to adapt to the US way in the future. That might be the way you fell comfort to bow to the bigger guns...

Yes, there are still hard core Marxists around. It does not matter if communism have been discredited or not. There are still those who believes in Marxism and would stop at nothing to impose communism on the world.


China used racial ties to overseas Chinese living in other Asian countries to motivate them to start Marxist revolutions. It was serious enough that those Asian governments had to put their local Chinese communities under increased surveillance. It does not mean that China will not use race again to get overseas Chinese to work for China for other reasons.

Gambit, Viets are really a disgrateful group of people. They relied on Chinese for the most part in their history. They sucked up to China whenever they had problems with other intruders. Yet Viets never was thankful for anything. After 1975 the North Vietnamese did first was to exploit the possessions of "rich Hua" and to drive them away, hundreds of thousands, as a payback to China's aid over 20 billion dollars in war time. CCP might have exported revolution to other Asian countries but Vietnam was an opposite example.

 

[Jlaw]

Chinja will never take the US way although it is perfectly capable of playing a similar game.

I think China need to rethink about non interference. These smaller countries only respect power. Do whatever is require to keep these smaller countries in check is necessary.