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A dedicated thread that will posts some interesting kaarnameins of our dear babus and our very dear maino mata & co. (aka cangress)


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Please don't mind if I post some older news as they are quite important to show how sold out our govt is..
 
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US preferred Pranab Mukherjee over AK Antony as defence minister

NEW DELHI: The US would have preferred Pranab Mukherjee to continue as the defence minister rather than present incumbent A K Antony, who it believes drags his feet in inking crucial bilateral military pacts and other matters.

Washington, however, can barely contain its glee that New Delhi is increasingly turning to it for arms imports, "frustrated" as India is with Russia for huge delays and price hikes in defence projects.

The latest tranche of US embassy cables, made public by WikiLeaks, make it clear once again that Washington is desperate for New Delhi to import even more American weaponry as well as ink bilateral "foundational agreements" to strongly cement the strategic relationship.
[We all know what this means :rolleyes:]
But it gets frustrated by "bureaucratic inertia and recalcitrant officials" in Indian defence and foreign ministries continuing to "complicate attempts to improve the partnership".

US, however, is full of praise for the "uniformed leadership" of Indian armed forces, especially Navy, as well as ministers like Mukherjee, who in June 2005 inked the 10-year Indo-US Defence Framework "within a few hours of his delegation agreeing to a final text".

An October 2008 cable, for instance, holds Mukherjee's involvement in the discussions on the EUM (end-use monitoring) pact "offers an opportunity to deal with a minister who has demonstrated the ability to conclude bilateral agreements without painstaking reviews (unlike Antony or the bureaucrats in both the defence and external affairs ministries)".

The EUM pact, which gives US the right to periodically inspect its defence equipment and technology sold to India, was of course finalized during secretary of state Hillary Clinton's visit to India in July 2009.
[Jai Ho Maino mata ki ]

In January 2010, foreign secretary Nirupama Rao did assure US ambassador Tim Roemer that, with the communist parties no longer "constraining foreign policy", the "Indian government shared the US perspective and the only issue now was how to educate the naysayers" on the other foundational pacts.[Please vote secular congress so that they can sell out the country :angel:]

But to this day, with Antony leading the dissenters, India has not inked the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA), Communication Interoperability and Security Memorandum Agreement (CISMOA) and Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geo-Spatial Cooperation (BECA), much to US dismay despite years of hard-sell.

There have, however, been no full-stops in armament deals, with US notching up sales worth over $8 billion over the last decade and many more contracts in the pipeline.

"For the first time, India can afford (politically and financially) to purchase frontline US equipment," says a January 2010 cable, holding that Indians were "astounded" by US systems and aircraft.

"The near doubling in cost and extensive delays in delivery of Russian aircraft carrier Gorshkov, issues with transfer of technology on T-90 tanks and universal problems with spare parts have convinced even pro-Russian members of Indian government that new sources of supply are needed to balance Russia," it adds.

US preferred Pranab Mukherjee over AK Antony as defence minister - Times Of India
 
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WikiLeaks: 'India would grow at 12% if it were South, West only'

A leaked US diplomatic cable has revealed that Home Minister P Chidambaram, in a discussion with American Ambassador Timothy Roemer, had said that "India could achieve 11-12 per cent (GDP) growth if it were the South and West only" and noted that "the rest of the country held it back".

The cable dated August 20, 2009, originating from the US Embassy in New Delhi and released by whistleblower website WikiLeaks, stated that Chidambaram also commented "in passing, on the vast disparity between his native South and the rest of the country, with the South being the entrepreneurial and business hub of the nation."

WikiLeaks: 'India would grow at 12% if it were South, West only' - Rediff.com Business
 
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US knew of ISI tie-up with Tiger Memon: WikiLeaks

The US officials knew for a very long time that ISI had created various terrorist groups, including those based out from Nepal, to carry out attacks in India, including the 1996 Lajpat Nagar blast, according to the latest US cables released by WikiLeaks.
The US cables clearly show that Americans also knew that Tiger Memon, the prime accused in 1993 Mumbai blast case and an aide of global terrorist Dawood Ibrahim, had tied up with the ISI.

In these cables, the US officials say that it is the ISI which created various terrorist fronts to carry out terror activities in India, including the bomb blasts in the busy areas of Connaught Place and Lajpat Nagar in New Delhi and several cities across the country.

One of such organisations created by ISI in Pakistan was Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front (JKIF), with its main base in Kathmandu, Nepal.

"To dispatch men and material and to execute explosions in India, Kathmandu was invariably made the nodal point and JKIF exploited the vulnerable Kathmandu-based Kashmiri businessmen for such activities since they had a ready-made and clean past. JKIF kingpin Javed Krawah himself used to run a carpet business in Kathmandu," said the US cable signed off by none other than the then US Ambassador to India, Frank Wisner.

The JKIF, says the cable dated July 8, 1997, was controlled from Pakistan by ISI and Memon.

"Their contact in ***************** Kashmir was Bilal Beg, who was running an indoctrination camp near Muzaffarabad, funded extensively by the ISI to carry out terrorist acts in India.

''One Colonel Farooq of Pakistan ISI tasked Bilal Beg and Tiger Memon to utilize Kathmandu-based activists Lateef and Javed Krawah to set off blasts in Delhi before the Lok Sabha elections," it said.

In May 21, 1996; this JKIF team set off a very high intensity explosion at Lajpat Nagar, in which 13 persons were killed and 40 injured.

"The RDX used in this blast was brought from Kathmandu," the cable said.

The subsequent explosion in a Rajasthan roadways bus near Dausa on May 22, 1996 was also engineered by the JKIF.

"Another JKIF team under the leadership of Abdul Gani, AKA Assadullah, was sent to execute a bomb blast in Ahmedabad," it said.

The JKIF again planned a chain of explosions in Delhi before Republic Day 1997 at the behest of Pakistan ISI and Tiger Memon, the cable said.

Since its inception, the JKIF had been under considerable pressure from its Pakistan-based leadership to carry out bomb blasts outside J-K, particularly in Delhi, the cable said.

US knew of ISI tie-up with Tiger Memon: WikiLeaks - Indian Express

US is a great friend indeed isn't it pro-US jingos?? :yahoo:
 
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186500: Vatican official on India-Pakistan conflict and Indian approach to religious freedom

Even the Congress Party - which is traditionally more helpful on religious freedom issues, in the Church's view - supported them in Himachal Pradesh state in order to gain electoral advantage.

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 1/9/2029 TAGS: PGOV, PREL, KIRF, IN, PK, VT

SUBJECT: VATICAN OFFICIAL ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT AND INDIAN APPROACH TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

REF: VATICAN 3

CLASSIFIED BY: Rafael Foley, Pol Chief. REASON: 1.4 (b), (d)

1. (C) At a January 7 meeting with the DCM, the Holy See's Secretariat of State point person for South Asia, Monsignor Joseph Murphy, discussed the Church's view on tensions between India and Pakistan. The Vatican is concerned about the potential for further violence, he said, and the Pope underlined this concern in his annual address to the diplomatic corps on January 8 (reftel). Both countries have non-resident Ambassadors accredited to the Holy See. The Pakistani Ambassador, based in Paris, maintains regular contact with the Holy See. The Indian Ambassador, based in Geneva, does not. (Murphy speculated that Indian diplomats avoid such meetings to dodge discussions of religious freedom with the Holy See, arguing that New Delhi has very limited influence on developments in India's state-level administrations.) Murphy said that the Holy See would be willing to use its influence to reduce tensions, but said the Vatican has little direct pull with either party. The Vatican would, however, be pleased to deliver helpful messages to governments that can in turn influence Islamabad and New Delhi. [um, no thanks!! mind your own business ]

2. (C) Elaborating on religious freedom issues in India, Murphy said a victory for Hindu Nationalist party BJP in India's general elections next May probably would not be good for the Catholic Church. The BJP has favored anti-conversion laws on the books in five Indian states. These are of concern to the Vatican, even if they are not being applied, because they create a hostile environment to religious freedom and discourage the conversion of Dalits in particular. Even the Congress Party - which is traditionally more helpful on religious freedom issues, in the Church's view - supported them in Himachal Pradesh state in order to gain electoral advantage. [talk about secularism :D]

3. (C) On a positive note, Murphy said the Christmas holidays were peaceful for the estimated 17 million Christians in India, including in Orissa --where there was finally a more robust security presence.

The Hindu : The India Cables / The Cables : 186500: Vatican official on India-Pakistan conflict and Indian approach to religious freedom

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Stratfor accused of spying for Dow on Bhopal activists

US-based security think-tank Stratfor spied for the Dow Chemicals on the activists of the 1984 Bhopal gas tragedy, WikiLeaks alleged today as the whistleblower website started publishing millions of confidential emails of this prominent private intelligence analyst group.

The e-mails date between July 2004 and late December 2011, WikiLeaks said.

“They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defence Intelligence Agency,” WikiLeaks alleged.

Stratfor was not immediately available for its reaction on the allegations by WikiLeaks. But the website of this Texas-based organisation said that it is offering all its contents for free.

“I wanted to warn you that individuals continue to send out false communications that appear to be from Stratfor.

These spam emails may contain malware and attachments, and may attempt to lead you to websites that look like our own. They may also attempt to convince you to provide your private information,” says Stratfor CEO George Friedman on its website.

The emails posted by WikiLeaks on its website, revealed that Stratfor not only provided to Dow Chemicals and Union Carbide the analysis of the daily developments on the case related to the Bhopal Gas tragedy in Indian courts, but also the activities including the travel plans and like where they are staying or what they plan to do.

The Hindu : News / International : Stratfor accused of spying for Dow on Bhopal activists
 
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Our dear Man mohan saab


Former Income Tax Comissioner Vishwa Bandhu Gupta busting the myth of Manmohan Singh being Honest

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Our great madamji :D

Mayawati sent jet to fetch sandals: WikiLeaks
CNN-IBN
Posted on Sep 05, 2011 at 03:19pm IST

New Delhi: Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister and Bahujan Samaj Party chief Mayawati sent a jet to pick up a pair of sandals, according to leaked US diplomatic cables. :)

"When she needed new sandals, her private jet flew empty to Mumbai to retrieve her preferred brand," a cable said describing her "eccentricities, whims and insecurities".

US embassy cables from 2007 to 2009 released by the WikiLeaks website describe Mayawati as "a first-rate egomaniac" who "is obsessed with becoming prime minister".

The cable also quotes Lucknow journalists claiming that she employs nine cooks (two to cook, the others to watch over them) and two food tasters.

"She fears assassination and demanded from the central government the highest level of protection available. In addition to this outsized security apparatus, she constructed a private road from her residence to her office, which is cleaned immediately after her multiple vehicle convoy reaches its destination," said the cable. [Pigs like her should be indeed shot down]

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U.S. feared Indian proposal may curtail its influence in UN

Hasan Suroor
LONDON: Strident opposition from the United States to a proposal by India and other Non-Aligned Movement countries to change the way the United Nations Secretary-General is elected was prompted by fears that it “would dramatically curtail the influence of the U.S. in the selection process.”

Washington was also deeply concerned that the process — under the proposed system — “would work against U.S. interests at the UN” as candidates competing for the top job would be expected to address “controversial issues such as development assistance levels, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and management reform,'' according to a confidential U.S. diplomatic cable accessed by The Hindu through WikiLeaks.

A cable dated May 24, 2006 ( 65263: confidential) from the U.S. Mission at the UN said that India's “aggressive” campaign on the issue was “part of a broader Indian effort to bolster its standing in the developing world and its chance for a permanent seat on the Security Council.”

Sent under the name of U.S. Permanent Representative to the UN John Bolton, it accused India of “trying to take advantage of the current atmosphere of conflict between the G-77 and the developed world, and to capitalize on momentum from the G-77's recent management reform votes.”

French Permanent Representative Jean-Marc de La Sabliere was reported as saying that “he thought the Indians were trying to establish a ‘general practice of contentious votes' as part of their campaign for a permanent seat in the Security Council.”

Under the proposal, which was eventually rejected, the Security Council would have been required to recommend “two or more” candidates to the General Assembly for the election of the Secretary-General, instead of the usual one. Americans interpreted the move as being “directed primarily at the P5 [the five permanent members of the UN Security Council], and in particular at the U.S.'' They argued that “providing two candidates to the GA…would dramatically curtail the influence of the U.S. in the selection process.”

‘A G-77 beauty contest'

“More problematic,” the cable speculated, “would be [a] scenario where the election becomes a beauty contest among the G-77 in which candidates are forced to provide commitments inimical to U.S. interests. In a process that enhances member states' ability to elicit pledges, SYG [secretary-general] candidates could be forced, for example, to limit the representation of the developed world in the Secretariat's senior ranks. We would expect candidates to address controversial issues such as development assistance levels, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and management reform. Given the balance of votes in the GA, such a campaign would work against U.S. interests at the UN.”

Nirupam Sen targeted

The cable targeted India's Permanent Representative Nirupam Sen, claiming that he had been “widely quoted as saying that the current process creates a ‘Secretary-General who is secretary to the P5 and general to the General Assembly,' and that a new process is needed to ‘reverse the situation'. He referred to the current SYG as ‘the P5's official executioner'.”

The cable added: “Russian PR [Vitaly Ivanovich] Churkin (currently serving as the unofficial P5 coordinator) has been seeking an appointment with Sen for more than a week to discuss the issue but has been unable to get on the Indian PR's schedule. Churkin told the other P5 PRs that he thought Sen was clearly avoiding the meeting.”

Describing the proposal as a “symptom of the deeper divide among the UN membership,'' the cable warned that if “the NAM is successful in bringing this issue before the GA for a vote, and certainly if it passes, there will be a serious fight over Charter language and Security Council authority this fall.”

In the event, India itself did a U-turn ( The Hindu, March 20, 2011; vide cable 64794: confnoforn, dated May 19, 2006) and joined the U.S.-sponsored “consensus” on the issue.

The Hindu : Opinion / Op-Ed : U.S. feared Indian proposal may curtail its influence in UN
 
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An interview with Julian Assange

Black money comes mainly from India: Assange-News-Exclusives-TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News Videos

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The truth of the sacrifice of Maino Mata

A struggle between ‘reform cadre' and the ‘old line' in the Congress

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CHENNAI: After the Congress suffered electoral losses in Punjab and Uttarakhand in February 2007, some party members advocated that party president Sonia Gandhi “jettison” Prime Minister Manmohan Singh ahead of the Uttar Pradesh Assembly election in April-May 2007 and “put a more saleable political face at the head of the government,” according to a United States Embassy cable ( 100159: confidential) sent on March 13, 2007.

“Following a string of recent local-level electoral defeats in Mumbai, Uttarakhand, and Punjab, Sonia Gandhi and her personal advisors are very concerned that the impending Uttar Pradesh (UP) elections will turn out horribly for Congress. As a result, some are advocating that she jettison Prime Minister Singh — whose message of rapprochement with Pakistan has been criticized by the BJP — and put a more saleable political face at the head of the government,” the cable sent under the name of Embassy Charge d'Affaires Geoffrey Pyatt reported to Washington.

The Embassy appeared worried about the “reform cadre” in the government being sidelined by the “old line” Congress with socialist sympathies. “What seems clear in the aftermath of recent polls is that the reform cadre of Manmohan Singh, [Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission] Montek Singh Ahluwalia, and Finance Minister [P.] Chidambaram are politically diminished, Sonia Gandhi's inner coterie is deeply worried, and the old line Congress and their Communist fellow-travelers are empowered. Politics in India are a mess right now for Congress, and while the GOI [Government of India] is publicly optimistic about the nuclear deal, it is clearly caught in a domestic political eddy,” the cable added.

It also took note of the political compulsions of the Congress that might have a bearing on U.S. interests. “Others are urging that the Congress hunker down and play it safe on the budget, inflation, economic reform, and foreign policy — including the nuclear deal — to minimize the negative impact on UP voters, many of whom are Muslim and take a dim view of the United States.”

Energy sector concerns

The cable, accessed by TheHindu through WikiLeaks, was sent ahead of a visit to India by Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman to further the U.S.-India relationship in the energy sector.

Mr. Pyatt, in the “scene-setter” for the visit, expressed the hope that Mr. Bodman could win over the Indian nuclear scientific establishment with the prospect of “future-oriented programs” like the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership. “Your scheduled meetings in Mumbai with Department of Atomic Energy Secretary Dr. Anil Kakodkar and in New Delhi with Special Envoy Shyam Saran offer an opportunity to highlight the many benefits of U.S.-India civil nuclear cooperation, which could be lost if India does not conclude the 123 Agreement quickly,” he wrote.

Briefing Mr. Bodman on what to expect during his meetings in India, the Charge said: “The Prime Minister will likely tell you that his number one priority is extending the benefits of India's rapid growth to the 700 million Indians — mostly in the rural sector — who continue to live at a near subsistence level. Rising food and fuel prices have particularly hurt the poor, creating a political backlash against the UPA government in recent state elections. Prime Minister Singh and your other interlocutors will be very interested in your ideas on how the United States can help with India's energy needs in the short and long term, particularly with respect to the rural sector.”

Looking ahead to Mr. Bodman's meeting with Union Minister of Petroleum and Natural Gas Murli Deora, Mr. Pyatt wrote that Mr. Deora had “close ties to Sonia Gandhi's inner circle and a political base in Mumbai, and he is central to India's international quest for growing petroleum and natural gas imports, and cooperation with the United States in domestic industry development and regulatory policy.” The Minister had told American diplomats that India did not expect a final agreement to be reached on the oil pipeline with Iran due to Iranian unreliability and Iran changing the terms of the June 2005 agreement to sell India LNG from its South Pars field for 25 years. “The MPNG increasingly sees LNG from Qatar and Australia as a more viable option than several proposed pipeline projects,” the cable noted.

While giving the Energy Secretary a backgrounder to the U.S.-India civil nuclear negotiations, Mr. Pyatt said Indian Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon had handed Under Secretary Nicholas Burns a “completely inadequate counter-draft to the 123 Agreement — authored by the skeptics in India's nuclear establishment who remain concerned about U.S. efforts to ‘entrap' India and constrain its strategic program.”

Mr. Burns, the cable added, had asked Mr. Menon to “provide a more workable basis on which the U.S. and India can continue talks, and invited an Indian team with negotiating authority to the U.S. for the next round of discussions.” (This was sent before the two countries released the full text of the 123 agreement, which allows for cooperation on peaceful uses of nuclear energy, in August 2007.)

Analysing the compulsions of the Congress-led government in this context, it said:

“The politics around India's energy policy reflects a struggle between needed economic reform and political impediments to change. Prime Minister Singh and Deputy Chairman Ahluwalia are well aware of what economic reforms are needed to enhance India's long term growth.

“They realize that reasonable regulation and market-based pricing of electricity, petroleum products, natural gas, and coal would be most conducive to encouraging investment, reliable revenue streams, energy efficiency, and rational choice among projects and energy sources. However, the political imperatives of middle-class and poor voters' resistance to price increases, particularly with consumer inflation recently exceeding 6%, have induced the GOI to maintain price controls and government subsidies. Similarly, although the GOI privately doubts Iran's reliability as a potential source of natural gas by pipeline or of liquefied natural gas, it continues negotiations with Iran to appease Muslim and left-wing voters and Members of Parliament.”

The Hindu : Opinion / Op-Ed : A struggle between ‘reform cadre' and the ‘old line' in the Congress

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‘It means he has a habit of reactively covering up allegations of corruption'



“I am very encouraged by what's happened in India,” says Julian Assange, Editor-in-Chief of WikiLeaks, referring to the public response to The Hindu's agenda-shaping publication, over 21 consecutive days, of a spectrum of articles based on the India Cables, accessed by the newspaper through WikiLeaks. Noting that “India has terrible corruption and something must be done about it,” he speaks warmly of “so many people... now pushing strongly against it,” including “the Gandhi-ist” Anna Hazare. He suggests that courageous acts by individuals elsewhere, for example in Tunisia, offer “a method that will provide widespread will to battle against corruption.”

Mr. Assange is genuinely distressed and not a little outraged by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's disputation in Parliament of the authenticity of the India Cables, his Lok Sabha statement that the government “cannot confirm the veracity, contents or even the existence of such communication.”

The WikiLeaks chief has strong words to say on this:

“We have not come across this reaction and that reaction disturbed me. Because Hillary Clinton had been involved in informing the Indian government, in December, as well as many other governments, that this was coming. There has been no question as to the credibility of any document we have ever published in the last four years, let alone the [U.S. Embassy] cables – which have been authenticated by the very aggressive action of the State Department towards us and by hundreds of journalists from the most reputable institutions across the world.

“That is why I said I find that statement a deliberate, knowing attempt to mislead the Indian population...Because it is directly from Prime Minister Singh's mouth and he knows better than to do that. While I have heard – I have no proof but the consensus seems to be that – he is not personally corrupt, here's a clear attempt to cover up for the possible corruption of other people. Rather than simply playing it straight, which he should have done, and say, ‘Look, there are allegations. They are serious and we will investigate them and come to the truth of the matter and give a full report to Parliament.'

“I think if he had taken that approach, he would have been served a lot better. So he has acted against his own interests and acted against the interests of his party, which is odd. So I would suggest it means that he has a habit that he was following rather than thinking things through – and a habit of reactively covering up allegations of corruption.”

These observations were made in response to one of my questions during a one-hour interview given to The Hindu at Ellingham Hall, a stately Georgian country house set amidst acres and acres of farmland in the county of Norfolk. Here, as part of his bail conditions, the WikiLeaks Editor-in-Chief is a house guest of his friend, strong supporter, and free speech campaigner, Vaughan Smith — former British Army officer and the founder of London's Frontline Club.

When we arrive at the Hall, early for the 2 p.m. interview, on Friday, April 8, we are greeted courteously by Mr. Smith. As we busy ourselves setting up the cameras and digital recorders in a tastefully decorated drawing room overlooking the grounds, Mr. Assange wanders in, gives us some practical advice on the set-up, and goes off for a walk across the fields. When he returns, he is completely relaxed and engaged with the hard copies I have brought him of the WikiLeaks coverage in 21 consecutive issues of The Hindu, and with the impending interview.

First, he is impressed by “a spectrum of publishing in India” which, in his view, is comparable with WikiLeaks' positive experience with its regional partners in Latin America – “the local focus is able to really burrow into important details.”

Secondly, “I am tempted to say, based upon my reading of The Hindu, that it is in a position to report more freely than these other papers are in their respective countries.” He offers an interesting hypothesis on what has made this possible.

Responding to my question on the impact of the Embassy cables on countries of the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, Mr. Assange offers us and The Hindu's readers a fascinating insight into what has happened and is in progress across this region and WikiLeaks' role in all this.

The Hindu : Today's Paper News : ‘It means he has a habit of reactively covering up allegations of corruption'
 
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‘Islands of growth' despite hurdles for Catholic Church

Katyayani Murti
CHENNAI: Like many, if not most, diplomatic states, the Vatican may be tailoring its message to suit its audience, cables accessed by The Hindu through WikiLeaks show.

In 2002, a Vatican representative told a U.S. diplomat that Catholicism in India was growing. But in 2006, a statement, written in response to a slew of anti-conversion laws in different Indian States and released on an official Church website in India, argued that the Catholic community in India was small and not conversion-oriented.

In a July 24, 2002 meeting, Archbishop Antonio Veglio, Secretary of the Congregation for Eastern Churches, told the U.S. Acting Deputy Chief of Mission, George Frowick, that of the 22 non-Roman Christian Rites in his charge, the vast majority faced threats to their stability. Only two — the Greek Rite Church in Ukraine and Keralite Catholic churches in India — appeared to be secure, according to an account of what the Archbishop said, as provided in the cable ( 3387: confidential, dated July 26, 2002).

“The Syro-Malabar and Syro-Malankara Churches are reputed to have a 2,000-year presence in Southern India,” the cable states. According to Archbishop Veglio, these churches originated “from the visit of Saint Tomas the Apostle.”

Unlike their counterparts in “the Middle East,” “Ethiopia/Eritrea,” and “formerly communist Europe” excluding the Greek Rite Church in Ukraine, “the Indian Eastern Catholic Churches centered on the state of Kerala” are described in the cable as ‘“lively' and ‘growing'.”

Characterised as “islands of growth,” the Syro-Malabar and Syro-Malankara Eastern Rite Churches were described by Archbishop Veglio as “vigorous and growing, despite hindrances.” The hindrances included anti-conversion bills such as those backed by the Hindu nationalist political party, the Bharatiya Janata Party, and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the cable says. So that's why secularists hate RSS and the Hindu terrorists??

Monsignor Francis Chullikatt, “a Kerala native heading off to become the papal nuncio in Baghdad,” termed such legislation “poorly conceived.” He emphasised “the need to preserve religious freedom in India,” “noting at the same time that the Catholic Church should be distinguished from various evangelical groups in India.” He claimed that such groups did not “respect traditional Indian culture in the way the Church does” ( 65975: confidential, dated May 31, 2006).

Anti-conversion bills

Cardinal Ivan Dias wrote protesting against a rash of anti-conversion bills being introduced in Indian States. His statement, of May 23, 2006, was released on the official website of the Catholic Bishops Conference of India.

Just three days earlier, on May 20, Cardinal Dias was appointed to “a senior position in Rome,” to serve as the “head of the Congregation for Evangelization,” according to the cable.

Monsignor Bernardito Auza, point man for South Asia in the Holy See's Secretariat of State, said that Cardinal Dias's appointment “coincided” with the anti-conversion excitement in India “purely by accident,” the cable says.

The statement was written on Cardinal Dias's “own initiative,” and not “coordinated with Rome,” according to Monsignor Auza, the cable says. However, it “accurately reflected the Vatican's views.”

“Christians are responsible for large shares of primary education, community health care, and literacy programs throughout India,” Cardinal Dias wrote, according to the cable. “A great many Indians of all faiths value and patronize these highly-regarded Catholic institutions, but are never asked to convert.”
[Thanks a lot for the great favour :rolleyes:]

“No forced conversion by the Catholic Church in India has ever been documented, despite various allegations,” the cable quotes Cardinal Dias as saying in his statement. Thus, “Christians in India are only 2.3 percent of the total population, and of these 1.8 percent are Catholics,” Cardinal Dias claimed, according to the cable.

“After two millenia the Indian Christian community remains small,” the cable quotes Cardinal Dias's statement as saying, contrasting with Archbishop Veglio's earlier declarations of growth.

“These churches are thriving even as Christians suffer persecution in Hindu-Nationalist parts of India,” Archbishop Veglio told Mr. Frowick in 2002 ( 3387: confidential, dated July 26, 2002).

Commenting on the situation, U.S. State Department Charge d'Affaires Christopher Sandrolini and U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See L. Francis Rooney III, said that “the Church — both in Rome and elsewhere — will increasingly shed its traditional preference for quiet diplomacy when it comes to issues it deems vital for its own survival, particularly religious freedom” ( 65975: confidential, dated May 31, 2006).

According to the cable, Mr. Sandrolini and Mr. Rooney “judge that the Holy See and the Church in India and elsewhere will not back down on issues it sees as fundamental to religious freedom, and to its security and survival.” :cry: usual rona dhona..

The Hindu : Opinion / Op-Ed : ‘Islands of growth' despite hurdles for Catholic Church
 
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Our great madamji :D

Mayawati sent jet to fetch sandals: WikiLeaks
CNN-IBN
Posted on Sep 05, 2011 at 03:19pm IST

New Delhi: Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister and Bahujan Samaj Party chief Mayawati sent a jet to pick up a pair of sandals, according to leaked US diplomatic cables. :)

"When she needed new sandals, her private jet flew empty to Mumbai to retrieve her preferred brand," a cable said describing her "eccentricities, whims and insecurities".

US embassy cables from 2007 to 2009 released by the WikiLeaks website describe Mayawati as "a first-rate egomaniac" who "is obsessed with becoming prime minister".

The cable also quotes Lucknow journalists claiming that she employs nine cooks (two to cook, the others to watch over them) and two food tasters.

"She fears assassination and demanded from the central government the highest level of protection available. In addition to this outsized security apparatus, she constructed a private road from her residence to her office, which is cleaned immediately after her multiple vehicle convoy reaches its destination," said the cable. [Pigs like her should be indeed shot down]

if this ghasti becomes pm i am gonaa shoot her.. ******* bitchh. na shakal na akal. ghastii
 
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Our great madamji :D

Mayawati sent jet to fetch sandals: WikiLeaks
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Posted on Sep 05, 2011 at 03:19pm IST

New Delhi: Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister and Bahujan Samaj Party chief Mayawati sent a jet to pick up a pair of sandals, according to leaked US diplomatic cables. :)

"When she needed new sandals, her private jet flew empty to Mumbai to retrieve her preferred brand," a cable said describing her "eccentricities, whims and insecurities".

US embassy cables from 2007 to 2009 released by the WikiLeaks website describe Mayawati as "a first-rate egomaniac" who "is obsessed with becoming prime minister".

The cable also quotes Lucknow journalists claiming that she employs nine cooks (two to cook, the others to watch over them) and two food tasters.

"She fears assassination and demanded from the central government the highest level of protection available. In addition to this outsized security apparatus, she constructed a private road from her residence to her office, which is cleaned immediately after her multiple vehicle convoy reaches its destination," said the cable. [Pigs like her should be indeed shot down]

if this ghasti becomes pm i am gonaa shoot her.. ******* bitchh. na shakal na akal. ghastii


don't worry if jingos like maino mata and her toli can rule this country why not her?? are you discriminating her because she is a dalit?? bloody upper cate brahmin.. :lol:
 
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Islamic Terrorists wanted to kill Hindu terrorist :D

INDIA/PAKISTAN/CT- LeT planned to kill CM Modi using car: WikiLeaks
Email-ID 679231
Date 1970-01-01 01:00:00
From animesh.roul@stratfor.com
To os@stratfor.com
[We knew it...Wikileak (though not original source of Info, but acted as ve=
ctor/parasite) confirmed it...]

LeT planned to kill CM Modi using car: WikiLeaks

Monday, December 6, 2010, 8:32 [IST]=20


New Delhi, Dec 6: The United States diplomatic cables released by whistle-b=
lowing website WikiLeaks revealed that the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba =
(LeT) had planned an attack on Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

The LeT planed the plot to assassinate Narendra modi just seven months after 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack. The plan was to kill Modi was described as "operations=E2=80=A6 involving a car" in the diplomatic cable sent from the =
office of the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton.


The cable described that the plot on Modi was planned by a Pakistan LeT member Shafiq Khafa and scheduled to carry out by Indian LeT member Sameer Hussein.[/B]

The cable sent on Jun 2009 said, "LeT member Shafiq Khafa, possibly prepari=
ng for operation, and Hussein -- an India-based Lashkar-e-Taiba member -- c=
ontinued operational planning on three tasks in early June. The tasks were =
associated with a possible operation against Gujarat chief minister Narendr=
a Modi, the establishment of a training camp and unspecified work involving=
a car. Hussein would coordinate his activities with an India-based colleag=
ue identified as Sameer."
Read: =E0=A4=B9=E0=A4=BF=E0=A4=A8=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=
=A6=E0=A5=80 =E0=A4=AE=E0=A5=87=E0=A4=82 The cable also exposed that LeT was searching for ideal sites in Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and Kerala for different operations.

The Global Intelligence Files - INDIA/PAKISTAN/CT- LeT planned to kill CM Modi using car: WikiLeaks
 
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WikiLeaks: 'India would grow at 12% if it were South, West only'

A leaked US diplomatic cable has revealed that Home Minister P Chidambaram, in a discussion with American Ambassador Timothy Roemer, had said that "India could achieve 11-12 per cent (GDP) growth if it were the South and West only" and noted that "the rest of the country held it back".

The cable dated August 20, 2009, originating from the US Embassy in New Delhi and released by whistleblower website WikiLeaks, stated that Chidambaram also commented "in passing, on the vast disparity between his native South and the rest of the country, with the South being the entrepreneurial and business hub of the nation."

WikiLeaks: 'India would grow at 12% if it were South, West only' - Rediff.com Business



Haha....music to my ears...time for the rest of you ugys to catch up.....when you vote such shady crapy politicans....the truth
 
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‘Islands of growth' despite hurdles for Catholic Church

Katyayani Murti
CHENNAI: Like many, if not most, diplomatic states, the Vatican may be tailoring its message to suit its audience, cables accessed by The Hindu through WikiLeaks show.

In 2002, a Vatican representative told a U.S. diplomat that Catholicism in India was growing. But in 2006, a statement, written in response to a slew of anti-conversion laws in different Indian States and released on an official Church website in India, argued that the Catholic community in India was small and not conversion-oriented.

In a July 24, 2002 meeting, Archbishop Antonio Veglio, Secretary of the Congregation for Eastern Churches, told the U.S. Acting Deputy Chief of Mission, George Frowick, that of the 22 non-Roman Christian Rites in his charge, the vast majority faced threats to their stability. Only two — the Greek Rite Church in Ukraine and Keralite Catholic churches in India — appeared to be secure, according to an account of what the Archbishop said, as provided in the cable ( 3387: confidential, dated July 26, 2002).

“The Syro-Malabar and Syro-Malankara Churches are reputed to have a 2,000-year presence in Southern India,” the cable states. According to Archbishop Veglio, these churches originated “from the visit of Saint Tomas the Apostle.”

Unlike their counterparts in “the Middle East,” “Ethiopia/Eritrea,” and “formerly communist Europe” excluding the Greek Rite Church in Ukraine, “the Indian Eastern Catholic Churches centered on the state of Kerala” are described in the cable as ‘“lively' and ‘growing'.”

Characterised as “islands of growth,” the Syro-Malabar and Syro-Malankara Eastern Rite Churches were described by Archbishop Veglio as “vigorous and growing, despite hindrances.” The hindrances included anti-conversion bills such as those backed by the Hindu nationalist political party, the Bharatiya Janata Party, and the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the cable says. So that's why secularists hate RSS and the Hindu terrorists??

Monsignor Francis Chullikatt, “a Kerala native heading off to become the papal nuncio in Baghdad,” termed such legislation “poorly conceived.” He emphasised “the need to preserve religious freedom in India,” “noting at the same time that the Catholic Church should be distinguished from various evangelical groups in India.” He claimed that such groups did not “respect traditional Indian culture in the way the Church does” ( 65975: confidential, dated May 31, 2006).

Anti-conversion bills

Cardinal Ivan Dias wrote protesting against a rash of anti-conversion bills being introduced in Indian States. His statement, of May 23, 2006, was released on the official website of the Catholic Bishops Conference of India.

Just three days earlier, on May 20, Cardinal Dias was appointed to “a senior position in Rome,” to serve as the “head of the Congregation for Evangelization,” according to the cable.

Monsignor Bernardito Auza, point man for South Asia in the Holy See's Secretariat of State, said that Cardinal Dias's appointment “coincided” with the anti-conversion excitement in India “purely by accident,” the cable says.

The statement was written on Cardinal Dias's “own initiative,” and not “coordinated with Rome,” according to Monsignor Auza, the cable says. However, it “accurately reflected the Vatican's views.”

“Christians are responsible for large shares of primary education, community health care, and literacy programs throughout India,” Cardinal Dias wrote, according to the cable. “A great many Indians of all faiths value and patronize these highly-regarded Catholic institutions, but are never asked to convert.”
[Thanks a lot for the great favour :rolleyes:]

“No forced conversion by the Catholic Church in India has ever been documented, despite various allegations,” the cable quotes Cardinal Dias as saying in his statement. Thus, “Christians in India are only 2.3 percent of the total population, and of these 1.8 percent are Catholics,” Cardinal Dias claimed, according to the cable.

“After two millenia the Indian Christian community remains small,” the cable quotes Cardinal Dias's statement as saying, contrasting with Archbishop Veglio's earlier declarations of growth.

“These churches are thriving even as Christians suffer persecution in Hindu-Nationalist parts of India,” Archbishop Veglio told Mr. Frowick in 2002 ( 3387: confidential, dated July 26, 2002).

Commenting on the situation, U.S. State Department Charge d'Affaires Christopher Sandrolini and U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See L. Francis Rooney III, said that “the Church — both in Rome and elsewhere — will increasingly shed its traditional preference for quiet diplomacy when it comes to issues it deems vital for its own survival, particularly religious freedom” ( 65975: confidential, dated May 31, 2006).

According to the cable, Mr. Sandrolini and Mr. Rooney “judge that the Holy See and the Church in India and elsewhere will not back down on issues it sees as fundamental to religious freedom, and to its security and survival.” :cry: usual rona dhona..

The Hindu : Opinion / Op-Ed : ‘Islands of growth' despite hurdles for Catholic Church




Further proof... Nobody is forced to convert. People convert from their own free will.
 
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The plan is to create communal disharmony in India by alienating Muslim Indians. Killing Modi is just a way to incite rioting by uneducated fools and there by tarnishing image of the country



Exactly so thank the Christians for educating the fools
 
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