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The writer is a social scientist.

THERE are several Southeast Asian countries fortunate enough to bring socioeconomic prosperity to their people within a generation. On the other hand, there are countries that, despite decades of high growth rates, are still chasing an elusive ‘take-off’. Pakistan is one of those countries.

In its early years, in spite of major handicaps, we achieved an intermittent growth rate of about six per cent over four decades. As hopes were raised for a better future, even countries like South Korea sought to emulate Pakistan’s planning model. By the end of the Ayub era, however, it became clear that this ‘golden age’ of development not only failed to impact the lives of millions of disadvantaged groups, but also created massive inequalities due to the regime’s discriminatory policies. It was no surprise that, far from a ‘take-off’, this led to the country’s dismemberment.

This article is not about Pakistan’s economic situation. It is about a ‘development surprise’. Recently, Bangladeshi economist Wahiduddin Mahmud predicted that his country is on the verge of becoming the next Asian Tiger. This is the same country that, prior to 1971, Pakistan’s ruling elite felt was dragging economic growth down. Far from mourning its separation, many thought it was good riddance to the ‘bottleneck’ that was holding West Pakistan back. Almost 50 years later, it is interesting to see where Pakistan and Bangladesh stand in terms of economic and human development.

First, the Bangladesh story. It wasn’t easy for a poor country to overcome the trauma of a costly ‘liberation’, and so it faced both political and economic instability. To add, being a deltaic country, it had a history of natural disasters, resulting in famines and persistent poverty. They also shared the same problems our rulers tend to cite to explain lack of performance: military interventions, poor governance, institutional vacuum, corruption and a polarised society. Despite these handicaps, from the 1980s onwards, growth picked up. Initially lackluster, once it was on track there was no stopping it. To the surprise of many, at 7.28pc in FY-2017, its growth rate surpassed even India’s.

There are a few important factors to Bangladesh’s success. Its economic performance has been steady for the last 20 years. When its growth rate first exceeded Pakistan’s in 2008, many analysts treated it as an aberration whereas it was in fact a turning point. Besides GDP growth, the country has made significant progress in its social indicators. Given its level of economic development, it has actually over-performed in social development.

Bangladesh has maintained a 1.1 pc population growth rate — about half of Pakistan’s 2pc — and closed the gender gap in primary and secondary education by the mid-1990s. It has also had much success in child health and preventive measures such as immunisation. These factors have resulted in a rise in average life expectancy, surpassing India’s and Pakistan’s by four and six years respectively.

What is more surprising is that this remarkable progress was not achieved through large public expenditures on mega projects financed through domestic or foreign loans, but instead through mobilising resources at the grass-roots level: micro-financing, and active support of a committed and engaged civil society and intelligentsia. Bangladesh’s early growth came from the readymade garment industry, which not only proved to be a boon for women’s employment, but also their empowerment and inclusion in social development.

Coming back to Pakistan, in spite of early successes and great potential, it’s fair to say that both its economy and human development continue to face problems. As stated earlier, this isn’t a review of the current macro-economic situation, but anyone would admit that, even accounting for perennial structural problems, its growth is neither steady nor stable.

What is most worrying is Pakistan’s dismal performance in the social sector: 25 million children out of school (according to Alif Ailaan); continuing wide gender gap; poor quality of education and health; gaps in routine immunisation; the worst infant mortality rate in the world; rampant malnutrition and stunted growth in 40pc of the children. These issues do not bother either our political leaders or our intelligentsia. They think that a high growth rate for 10 or so years will automatically solve all our problems.

But Bangladesh’s experience has shown that its progress in social outcomes is neither a reflection of economic growth, nor public expenditure-led development. Would it be too much to ask of our planners, policymakers and civil society leaders to look at this ‘development surprise’, and perhaps learn a thing or two from it?

The writer is a social scientist.

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Published in Dawn, June 3rd, 2018

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I present this not to boast about Bangladesh, but to honestly discuss the right approaches to take for success in Pakistan as compared to Bangladesh. The article is starkly truthful and realistic.

Brothers and sisters please refrain from belittling each of our countries by name-calling, this is an honest, open-heart objective discussion.

Yes Bangladesh definitely has problems, just like Pakistan does. Pretending there is no issue won't solve problems in either of our countries. An honest effort is needed to tackle our problems.
 
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What are the things left in Pakistan that we can compare and compete with? I don’t see anything except GDP per capita PPP but in 2-3 years Bangladesh will overtake that as well. Perhaps “we have nuke” is the only thing left as military wise as well Bangladesh will overtake Pakistan in a decade.

As Bangladesh is eliminating gap with Nominal per capita GDP, next target should be to cross India as well in terms of PPP in a decade!!
 
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What are the things left in Pakistan that we can compare and compete with? I don’t see anything except GDP per capita PPP but in 2-3 years Bangladesh will overtake that as well. Perhaps “we have nuke” is the only thing left as military wise as well Bangladesh will overtake Pakistan in a decade.

As Bangladesh is eliminating gap with Nominal per capita GDP, next target should be to cross India as well in terms of PPP in a decade!!

Well you are right. Bangladesh has done well for itself in spite of tremendous odds. But is winning against Pakistan or India economically our only goal? Shouldn't we set our sights higher?

Each country has priorities and Pakistan's was to checkmate India militarily, for which they sacrificed a lot, suffered and paid a heavy price. But we have to ask if it is sustainable to derogate development for the long term in order to maintain war-footing forever, which in reality helps only the hyper-privileged in the country (mainly connected to the military). Pakistan has to step into the league of modern democracies at some point ( am NOT saying Bangladesh is one, far from it).

I doubt the majority of posters in PDF are part of the hyper-privileged bunch in Pakistan so they have to ask themselves how long they can continue paying a personal price and handicap to support the feudal wealthy few.

That is a huge question. Will business be business as usual as it has been?

In the modern age, unless it is a question of 'mutually assured destruction' - Nukes have little if any value, other than placating dimwits within the country and propaganda for the less clueful.
 
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This is the same country that, prior to 1971, Pakistan’s ruling elite felt was dragging economic growth down. Far from mourning its separation, many thought it was good riddance to the ‘bottleneck’ that was holding West Pakistan back. Almost 50 years later, it is interesting to see where Pakistan and Bangladesh stand in terms of economic and human development.
But revealing this truth here is Blasphemy.
What is most worrying is Pakistan’s dismal performance in the social sector: 25 million children out of school (according to Alif Ailaan); continuing wide gender gap; poor quality of education and health; gaps in routine immunisation; the worst infant mortality rate in the world; rampant malnutrition and stunted growth in 40pc of the children. These issues do not bother either our political leaders or our intelligentsia. They think that a high growth rate for 10 or so years will automatically solve all our problems.
Keep faith in Atom Bomb. It will solve all the problems.:)
 
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Pakistan universal education system is utterly failed, except some elite educated bunch who emerge in cluster elite education systems (clearly shown why they had more elite university joined big group 500 THSQ or whatsoever it is compared to Bangladesh) to provide elite bunch for their military industry and government institution, but they failed to provide basic universal education at basic and middle level to raising standard social living of their general population.
 
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Pakistan universal education system is utterly failed, except some elite educated bunch who emerge in cluster elite education systems (clearly shown why they had more elite university joined big group 500 THSQ or whatsoever it is compared to Bangladesh) to provide elite bunch for their military industry and government institution, but they failed to provide basic universal education at basic and middle level to raising standard social living of their general population.
Sadly true. Probably one of the biggest achievements for Bangladeshis was that they tore down the class divide while in some ways widened in Pakistan instead.
 
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Sadly true. Probably one of the biggest achievements for Bangladeshis was that they tore down the class divide while in some ways widened in Pakistan instead.

Thank you.

This is the consensus I hear from my Pakistani friends as well.

Unless the democratization of jobs, healthcare and education takes place in all countries in South Asia, none of these countries will realize their full potential.
 
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Sadly true. Probably one of the biggest achievements for Bangladeshis was that they tore down the class divide while in some ways widened in Pakistan instead.
Bangladesh(Then East Pakistan) abolished feudalism in 1949. Restricted maximum land holding at 8 acres. This was one of the main reason, West Pakistani feudal elites were fearful handing over power to the Bengalis. West Pakistan's top military and political leadership as well as the bureaucracy came from this feudal class. While Bengali politicians came from mainly middle class and grassroots level. So West Pakistani feudal elites secured their future by imposing a war and by dismemberment of the country in 1971.
 
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Bangladesh(Then East Pakistan) abolished feudalism in 1949. Restricted maximum land holding at 8 acres. This was one of the main reason, West Pakistani feudal elites were fearful handing over power to the Bengalis. West Pakistan's top military and political leadership as well as the bureaucracy came from this feudal class. While Bengali politicians came from mainly middle class and grassroots level. So West Pakistani feudal elites secured their future by imposing a war and by dismemberment of the country in 1971.

Exactly. Agreed 100%.

And as I mentioned in other threads, the feudal families and their members live off trading favors in quid-pro-quo style.....the shame is that they have a coterie of sycophants who are their blind followers, cheering on spending on more and more expensive weapons systems to fund their expensive lifestyles, while the condition of the average Pakistani on the street gets worse and worse.
 
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Well no nation can achieve true development potential when nearly half of your working population is kept out of the process, This is where Bangladesh have done so well over Pakistan, Where religious fundamentalism have taken over every sphere of its society and the female population by large have been left in the lurch especially since the late 80’s.

Unless you’re an Arab country with billions of oil money to burn you can buy slave labor from your poorer Muslim brethren or get the best Western professionals to head your industries, You can jolly well keep your women folk hidden away in black sacks and only make use of them for procreation.. Pakistan doesn’t have that oil nor the affordability

Hopefully Imran Khan will have the foresight and the political will to change the status quo, If not I’m afraid Pakistan as a society and as a developing nation will not only loose its gains since independence which were were significant but will regress
 
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Well no nation can achieve true development potential when nearly half of your working population is kept out of the process, This is where Bangladesh have done so well over Pakistan, Where religious fundamentalism have taken over every sphere of its society and the female population by large have been left in the lurch especially since the late 80’s.

Unless you’re an Arab country with billions of oil money to burn you can buy slave labor from your poorer Muslim brethren or get the best Western professionals to head your industries, You can jolly well keep your women folk hidden away in black sacks and only make use of them for procreation.. Pakistan doesn’t have that oil nor the affordability

Hopefully Imran Khan will have the foresight and the political will to change the status quo, If not I’m afraid Pakistan as a society and as a developing nation will not only loose its gains since independence which were were significant but will regress
Aw, that's sweet darling, but we ain't the west where women are paraded around streets like some sex objects. Our society works in different manners. Different to that of the west, u should get that through ur thick, ignorant skull. Also how are the natives doing?


This reeks of obsession, with a slightly fishy aroma.
@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @OsmanAli98
 
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What are the things left in Pakistan that we can compare and compete with? I don’t see anything except GDP per capita PPP but in 2-3 years Bangladesh will overtake that as well. Perhaps “we have nuke” is the only thing left as military wise as well Bangladesh will overtake Pakistan in a decade.

As Bangladesh is eliminating gap with Nominal per capita GDP, next target should be to cross India as well in terms of PPP in a decade!!
That's pretty funny, how do you intend on surpassing Pakistan's military? I just took a look at your aircraft inventory, it doesn't even look like you are even trying to defend yourselves, lol. What about its intelligence agency? Will Bangladeshi intelligence surpass Pakistan's agency and sit in the big leagues with major powers? Are you going to have ballistic missiles, cruise missiles? I highly doubt it.

As for nukes, UN Security Council (US, Russia, China, UK, France) plus Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea all know what really matters. I guess Bangladesh might surpass all of these countries...

I present this not to boast about Bangladesh, but to honestly discuss the right approaches to take for success in Pakistan as compared to Bangladesh. The article is starkly truthful and realistic.

Brothers and sisters please refrain from belittling each of our countries by name-calling, this is an honest, open-heart objective discussion.

Yes Bangladesh definitely has problems, just like Pakistan does. Pretending there is no issue won't solve problems in either of our countries. An honest effort is needed to tackle our problems.
On a serious note, main reason for Pakistan falling behind is the decade of "democracy", whereas Bangladesh has one-man (one-woman cough..) rule. Previous two governments are now being investigated for massive corruption and the lack of their economic policies are being exposed. Furthermore, WoT brought potentially $200+ Billion in terms of economic damages. Now that phase is finally over, Pakistan will move forward.

It's infrastructure is better than Bangladesh. I know, I have traveled there to multiple of your cities. It has abundant natural resources, especially for power generation. It's one of the most fertile places for agriculture. In fact, that is rumored to be the main reason why Chinese are there - they want to use Pakistani land to grow their food and will bring technology and more sophisticated agricultural practices. That also means economic zones will be set up along the corridor, with emphasis on cold food & produce storage. Key component is the rail link to Gwadar and the eventual linking of Western China and Central Asian traffic leading to it.

Pakistan still has some light engineering industry left, and some larger engineering giants that are well-established internationally. IT exports will continue to increase as industry seems to be more driven by product development. Even if the government fails to boost exports, foreign investment will continue to surge. GCC countries will be building oil facilities, solar plants, and are investing in many other industries. If you pay any attention to economic news, European investors have now started to smell the potential. In about 5-7 years, I see Pakistan surpassing Bangladesh. It has larger population, land, resources, it's simply endowed with much more. It's inevitable at some point. As I said, economic growth comes and goes...
 
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No one in Pakistan compares ourselves to BD, but it seems every one in BD compares themselves to Pakistan.

Indian and BD obsession with us is creepy and weird as heck.

Compare yourselves to Sri Lanka, Burma, Nepal, Bhutan, who are closer to you in culture and race.
 
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