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It seems that the rumors about the death of the dollar were greatly exaggerated:


http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/07/economist-explains-17

THE gold price, which hit a five-year low on July 20th, reflects supply and demand right now, and also expectations about the future. The yellow metal serves two purposes: it is a commodity (used in electronics, jewellery and dentistry, for example) and a store of value—especially as an insurance policy against political upheavals. But gold is unlike other assets: it brings no income, and it costs money to store it. For now the shiny metal, and the hard-bitten investors who favour it, are in trouble. Gold rallied strongly after the financial crisis, but the price peaked in 2011 and has been falling ever since (see chart). Some believe it could go below $1,000 an ounce this year.

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The most immediate reason for gold’s woes is the strong dollar. Gold is priced in dollars, so if the American currency goes up, investors mark down the yellow metal accordingly. An added factor is that the dollar is rising because of the revival of the American economy, which is bringing the prospect of higher interest rates. That is bad news for gold. Higher interest rates increase the opportunity cost of holding zero-yield assets: the money tied up uselessly in bullion could be earning a return if invested in treasury bills or other debt. Strong corporate earnings have a similar effect: when dividends are generous, it hurts more to miss out on them.

The big hope for gold fans was that China, which aims to make the yuan into a reserve currency, would boost its gold stocks to the hefty levels held by Western central banks, in order to make it credible in international eyes. But this does not seem to be happening. China has raised its gold reserves a bit. But its bullion hoard is still puny, and as a share of total reserves, China’s gold holdings are falling.

Gold is also suffering because of a spate of unusually good political news. The euro zone’s deal on Greece has reduced the chance of a messy default, and of the break-up of the single currency. The nuclear deal with Iran reduces the risk of war (which tends to boost gold). It also raises the chances of a broader agreement on other Middle East issues such as Syria. That leaves pessimism as the main reason for holding gold. Some gold bugs believe that the scale on which central banks are creating money out of thin air (“quantitative easing” in the jargon of monetary policy) will eventually doom the whole edifice of international finance. But for now public confidence in “fiat” money (that is: currency backed by promises, not precious metal) is undimmed. And, wags say, if the world economy does indeed collapse completely, lead (in the form of bullets) may be more useful than gold.
 
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HAHA........................Value of Mallu's Investments have come down...............
 
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Dollar in demand, gold dives to five year low
The United States dollar held broad gains in Asia on Monday as investors looked ahead to higher interest rates from the Federal Reserve, while gold slumped to five-year lows as a lack of global inflation left little to hedge against.

The precious metal ran into a wave of selling in Asia that drove it down 3.9 per cent to $1,089.80 an ounce, having already suffered its worst weekly performance since March last week.

Activity was light elsewhere with Japan on holiday and a dearth of major data in the diary, leading to a cautious start for stocks.

Australia’s main index was a fraction softer, while MSCI’s broadest index of Asia-Pacific shares outside Japan was all but flat.

There was better news from China where home prices rose for a second month in a row in June, suggesting government efforts to boost the struggling property sector have started to gain traction.

China stocks seem to have pulled out of their recent nosedive amid a barrage of measures from regulators and buying by brokerages and mutual funds.

The CSI300 index of the largest listed companies in Shanghai and Shenzhen rose 0.1pc, while the Shanghai Composite Index eased 0.2pc.


Greek banks are set to reopen on Monday after a three-week shutdown, while German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for swift aid talks so Athens could also lift withdrawal limits.

With Greece fading from the limelight, markets focused on the relative outperformance of the US economy and nudged the euro near to its lowest in seven weeks at $1.0826.

A break of the May trough around $1.0818/19 would likely embolden bears to head for the April lows at $1.0521.

“For now, with an agreement on the cards and Greece currently adhering to creditors’ demands, it appears markets can move on and focus on other things,” say analysts at ANZ.

“Solid US data and further easing of global market stresses has driven expectations that the Fed could start to normalise rates this year.”

That helped the dollar up to 124.13 yen, near its highest in around three weeks, while the dollar index of 97.991 is on ground last visited in April.

In commodity markets, oil was burdened by the prospect of increased exports from Iran now a deal has been struck to ease sanctions on the country.

Brent crude was off 15 cents on Monday at $56.95 a barrel, while US crude fell 9 cents to $50.80.

http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2015...es-to-5yr-low/
 
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THE REAL REASON


Gold had a “mini flash-crash” in Asian trade on Monday, with the price falling almost 4% in a matter of seconds.

Now it looks like we know why.

A huge dump of bullion, equivalent to one-fifth of a whole day’s trade in a normal session, came on the market in China this morning in a two-minute window.

ANZ Bank analyst Victor Thianpiriya said in a note at the close of the Asia trading session that the “nature, size and timing of the heavy selling” suggests someone “was taking advantage of low liquidity or some sort of forced selling had taken place.

If it is "forced selling" then we could be in for plenty more trouble. Forced selling generally means leveraged investors who have used borrowed money to buy gold are being forced to sell to pay back the borrowed cash. A big dip is likely to trigger more "margin calls", industry slang for people selling to pay back borrowed money, and that will exacerbate the problem.

This is precisely what happened in China's stock market, which collapsed around 30% in a month after falling into a death spiral. That collapse was only halted by an unprecedented level of government intervention.

Here’s Thianpiriya with the details on the big gold sale:

In Shanghai, close to 5 tonnes of gold was sold on the SGE in a two-minute window just prior to 9:30am, in a market where the normal volume traded is 25 tonnes in an entire day. The August 15 Comex gold contract also saw 7,600 contracts traded in the same two-minute window, though intraday trading data showed an unusual spike in Comex volume just before Shanghai, suggesting Comex gold lead the selloff, but SGE clearly exacerbated it.

Thianpiriya says the technical outlook is very bearish now for gold, saying “further downside risks remain” and that “other indicators also suggest the likelihood of an immediate rebound is low.”

Gold fell 1% on Friday after the People's Bank of China revealed lower than expected gold reserves. All the signs coming out of the world's biggest gold consumer right now are cautious.

“We would be sellers of rallies, and wary of buying dips,” Thianpiriya says.

Gold touches 5yr low, as China suspected of heavy selling — RT Business
 
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It seems that the rumors about the death of the dollar were greatly exaggerated:


http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2015/07/economist-explains-17

THE gold price, which hit a five-year low on July 20th, reflects supply and demand right now, and also expectations about the future. The yellow metal serves two purposes: it is a commodity (used in electronics, jewellery and dentistry, for example) and a store of value—especially as an insurance policy against political upheavals. But gold is unlike other assets: it brings no income, and it costs money to store it. For now the shiny metal, and the hard-bitten investors who favour it, are in trouble. Gold rallied strongly after the financial crisis, but the price peaked in 2011 and has been falling ever since (see chart). Some believe it could go below $1,000 an ounce this year.

20150725_woc145.png



The most immediate reason for gold’s woes is the strong dollar. Gold is priced in dollars, so if the American currency goes up, investors mark down the yellow metal accordingly. An added factor is that the dollar is rising because of the revival of the American economy, which is bringing the prospect of higher interest rates. That is bad news for gold. Higher interest rates increase the opportunity cost of holding zero-yield assets: the money tied up uselessly in bullion could be earning a return if invested in treasury bills or other debt. Strong corporate earnings have a similar effect: when dividends are generous, it hurts more to miss out on them.

The big hope for gold fans was that China, which aims to make the yuan into a reserve currency, would boost its gold stocks to the hefty levels held by Western central banks, in order to make it credible in international eyes. But this does not seem to be happening. China has raised its gold reserves a bit. But its bullion hoard is still puny, and as a share of total reserves, China’s gold holdings are falling.

Gold is also suffering because of a spate of unusually good political news. The euro zone’s deal on Greece has reduced the chance of a messy default, and of the break-up of the single currency. The nuclear deal with Iran reduces the risk of war (which tends to boost gold). It also raises the chances of a broader agreement on other Middle East issues such as Syria. That leaves pessimism as the main reason for holding gold. Some gold bugs believe that the scale on which central banks are creating money out of thin air (“quantitative easing” in the jargon of monetary policy) will eventually doom the whole edifice of international finance. But for now public confidence in “fiat” money (that is: currency backed by promises, not precious metal) is undimmed. And, wags say, if the world economy does indeed collapse completely, lead (in the form of bullets) may be more useful than gold.

What a junk article.

The price of gold depends on two things. Demand and supply. The demand side usually comes from three areas: Jewelry, Industry and investment (safe specially during political/economic instability periods).

Supply side depends on energy. Gold is an energy concentrate since for its recovery from mines or from associated minerals, energy has to be spent. In this, gold depends on oil market. The oil goes down, the gold becomes cheaper to produce.

Look at the world now. The oil is down, energy is cheap, economies are becoming stable and except a few self-contained conflicts there is no major war going on, Iran agreement cooled things further and so on.

Under these conditions, it is natural gold to go down. Nothing to do with dollar or yuan.
 
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What a junk article.

The price of gold depends on two things. Demand and supply. The demand side usually comes from three areas: Jewelry, Industry and investment (safe specially during political/economic instability periods).

Supply side depends on energy. Gold is an energy concentrate since for its recovery from mines or from associated minerals, energy has to be spent. In this, gold depends on oil market. The oil goes down, the gold becomes cheaper to produce.

Look at the world now. The oil is down, energy is cheap, economies are becoming stable and except a few self-contained conflicts there is no major war going on, Iran agreement cooled things further and so on.

Under these conditions, it is natural gold to go down. Nothing to do with dollar or yuan.

And how is the value of oil denominated in the world's markets?
 
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And how is the value of oil denominated in the world's markets?

That also is not important. It is only important to conspiracy theorists. The price of oil is determined by supply and demand. Its denomination is irrelevant. Any money denomination is good as long as the people trust it. The people trust dollars and they use it. If ever people start to trust Yuan, then it is possible the oil to be denominated in Yuan since China now is using almost the same amount of oil as US. Though I do not see people trust Yuan in near or immediate term (now to 20 years).
 
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That also is not important. It is only important to conspiracy theorists. The price of oil is determined by supply and demand. Its denomination is irrelevant. Any money denomination is good as long as the people trust it. The people trust dollars and they use it. If ever people start to trust Yuan, then it is possible the oil to be denominated in Yuan since China now is using almost the same amount of oil as US. Though I do not see people trust Yuan in near or immediate term (now to 20 years).

So the answer is: the US Dollar.
 
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