Why the army has become pacifist

[Samurai_assassin]

All these weapons are for the annual parade and museums.
Pak army does not have the will or the determination to fight any more. Soft hearted weak people.

 

[TheSolution]

Full fledged retaliation is on... Includes all new platforms, won't name them of f course. If it isn't in the news, doesn't mean it's not being done. And it was being done on a surge level even before the Peshawar attack.

It's probably a good idea to have it on the news for morale purposes

What is "surge level"?

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Start educating public about Afghanistan from the usual rhetoric.
#1 Afghanistan is not a graveyard of empires..

#2 Afghanistan people are not holier than you. Afghans didnt bring/convert you to islam .

The solution to this problem is teaching pre islamic history of pakistan especially the indus valley civilization, gotta own ur ancestors whether they were muslims or not, people need to know the accomplishments of ancestors so as to m keep distinct identity from rest of the muslims, and stop painting afghans as brothers in books but every shit they pulled off against pakistan should be in the books, paint 'em as fucking barbians.

 

[Imran Khan]

We left paganism for Islam. We should not encourage paganism. This is a bad idea.

so iran egypt turkey saudia are less muslims??????/

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Start educating public about Afghanistan from the usual rhetoric.
#1 Afghanistan is not a graveyard of empires..

#2 Afghanistan people are not holier than you. Afghans didnt brought/converted you to islam .

A time came every regional nation apart from Sri Lanka was bullying and intimidating Pakistan.

 

[SaadH]

Where are those F-16s and Wing Loong 2s and SSGs?

I agree with him we should stop blaming people and let the firepower do the talking

Just IN:— "Pakistan should take care of its own problems and stop blaming Afghanistan for Peshawar attack." - Afghan foreign minister Muttaqqi

This is the case of Occam's razor, the most likely reason for unfettered attacks in Pakistan that it can only be possible if there is complicity from the state.

What's your ethnicity?

You talk like an Afghan/Pashtun nationalist but aren't you a Muhajir?

I hope you know you are classified as a dalkhor in the Pashtun/Afghan nationalist index for being Indic right? Jumping on the Punjabi hate train by parroting Afghans is cringe considering you are seen as the same people you are talking against

Ethnicity and race is an artificial construct, I despise ethno-nationalists of all varieties, particularly Punjabi and Pushtun ones. However, with Pushtuns at least they were able to defeat their subjugators and stand up for what they believed in, no matter how much you despise them you have to admire their courage and tenacity. The same can't be said of those from the land of Punjab and by extention other varieties east of Indus river. Also, you can't ignore contributions made by Punjab as part of the establishment from day 1. You can't absolve Punjab of it's central role in the rise of many insidious movements and individuals and it's impact on the perennial deterioration of Pakistani state and economy.

As for my fellow muhajir (the most artificial ethnicity of South Asia) brothers they also get the blame for the rise of Altaf and MQM's 40 reign of terror, ably backed by the Punjab dominated Mil-establishment no less. That is why I am the most vocal critic of MQM and Altaf on this board.

Lastly, Pushtuns nationalists of yore are not in power in Afghanistan and I could care less what they think of the Indic people. Ironically, Pakistani Punjabis tend to play up the Indic label a lot more to put down the muhajirs as if they are some distinct inferior hindu race, separate from Punjabis.

 

[TheSolution]

Ethnicity and race is an artificial construct, I despise ethno-nationalists of all varieties, particularly Punjabi and Pushtun ones. However, with Pushtuns at least they were able to defeat their subjugators and stand up for what they believed in, no matter how much you despise them you have to admire their courage and tenacity. The same can't be said of those from the land of Punjab and by extention other varieties east of Indus river. Also, you can't ignore contributions made by Punjab as part of the establishment from day 1. You can't absolve Punjab of it's central role in the rise of many insidious movements and individuals and it's impact on the perennial deterioration of Pakistani state and economy.

As for my fellow muhajir (the most artificial ethnicity of South Asia) brothers they also get the blame for the rise of Altaf and MQM's 40 reign of terror, ably backed by the Punjab dominated Mil-establishment no less. That is why I am the most vocal critic of MQM and Altaf on this board.

Lastly, Pushtuns nationalists of yore are not in power in Afghanistan and I could care less what they think of the Indic people. Ironically, Pakistani Punjabis tend to play up the Indic label a lot more to put down the muhajirs as if they are some distinct inferior hindu race, separate from Punjabis.

True, Punjabi nationalists can be quite toxic as well but I wouldn't put it at the same level as Pashtun nationalists

But, yes, all forms of toxicity which is the result of ethno-nationalism should be condemned

Lastly, Pushtuns nationalists of yore are not in power in Afghanistan

How are they not?

The IEA is a Pashtun dominated organisation pushing forward ruling that is derived from Pashtun tribal culture rather than inherently Islamic

 

[Waterboy]

military needs to be tamed and put under civic control. these gernail gave us PDM. they are the shaitan, the fairon in Pakistan.

They also gave us PTI.

 

[Path-Finder]

They also gave us PTI.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1620515270455623684

No, if they had gives us PTI then bajwa would NEVER have done the haramzadgi it did!

 

[Waterboy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1620515270455623684

No, if they had gives us PTI then bajwa would NEVER have done the haramzadgi it did!

Come out of your wet dream. If they can remove nawazo 3 times, they can surely strip immi as well.

 

[Path-Finder]

Come out of your wet dream. If they can remove nawazo 3 times, they can surely strip immi as well.

stop doing jamadari and istanjadari of PDM(+gernails) because they and their gamashtay are about to be flushed into the history.

your mian a darpok and toheen of lions.

 

[villageidiot]

I don't think the entire military is loyal to him. The chain of command exists and it would override any loyalties to IK

I was being sarcastic bro. Because shine boys tend to place the blame for terrorism on Imran Khan, despite the fact the he was deposed 9 months ago. No ones stopping them now that they don't answer to Taliban Khan

 

[delta2]

Calm down people.

There was a multi pronged war being waged against Pakistan, has been for the last 4 decades ever since Pak went openly nuclear, don't expect it to end abruptly.

This is a state of flux, don't aim to settle.

Russia waited 14+ years before making their move. And that is Russia. Pakistan doesn't have Russia's play book exactly, but Pakistan will retaliate in its own way.

Stop reacting like children. This is a long war. Right now they are throwing their swings. Pakistan will punch back at a time seen fit.

Right now there are too many deeply entrenched enemies within.

That point about generals' and politicians' kids being sent abroad, every body everywhere does it. No big deal. Eventually the Pakistani state will benefit from the fact that the current ruling class is itself weakening its own grip.

So act like grown ups and try to look at the larger picture.

 

[villageidiot]

No will to fight against their ummah chummah.

A valid ideological cause hasn't been given for a muslim enemy

Is 140 innocent children dead not enough of a reason? or 100 people blown up inside a house of God?

And we did fight them before. Were they not muslims during Zarb-e-Azb? Or was it that we valued Pakistani lives back then.

 

[Imran Khan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1620715024431071234