Why liberalism is actually the biggest threat which Pakistan faces apart from insurgencies

[Great Janjua]

I dont see the correlation between sexual abuse and liberalism. Kinda contradictory tbh. Most liberal countries have a far more effective justice system than Pakistan.

Same countries which have produced the highest amount of sexual predators anywhere on the face of the planet yh yh right. Next minute you will say Americans liberated the indigenous indians from slavery.

So why does not your preferred type of society offer you the economic advantages that you seek for yourself? Hmmmmm.

Because its ruled by a society which has power that goes in circulation from top to bottom the so called liberals its not hard to understand. Do i need to give examples as well now?

 

[CLUMSY]

Same countries which have produced the highest amount of sexual predators anywhere on the face of the planet yh yh right. Next minute you will say Americans liberated the indigenous indians from slavery.


Because its ruled by a society which has power that goes in circulation from top to bottom the so called liberals its not hard to understand. Do i need to give examples as well now?

Highest? That sounds debatable. Either way, their justice system is way better than here . Btw is that a union jack on your profile? Please dont act as if pakistan isnt filled to the core with rapists and predators. Just keep finding a way to blame it on muh maghribi culture hurr durr

 

[Imran Khan]

Your gassing your self are u that far up ur own a*rse

or i stepped on your tail badly ?

Same countries which have produced the highest amount of sexual predators anywhere on the face of the planet yh yh right. Next minute you will say Americans liberated the indigenous indians from slavery.


Because its ruled by a society which has power that goes in circulation from top to bottom the so called liberals its not hard to understand. Do i need to give examples as well now?

no one create more sexual predators then madrasas

 

[VCheng]

Because its ruled by a society which has power that goes in circulation from top to bottom the so called liberals its not hard to understand. Do i need to give examples as well now?

What is clear is that the kind of conservative society that you wish for simply does not offer the economic success that you want for yourself.

 

[Great Janjua]

What is clear is that the kind of conservative society that you wish for simply does not offer the economic success that you want for yourself.

Does conservatism oppose trade or does conservatism deny building of trading ports? How does it exactly limit economic success please do enlighten us am waiting for your knowledge on economics.

 

[VCheng]

Does conservatism oppose trade or does conservatism deny building of trading ports? How does it exactly limit economic success please do enlighten us am waiting for your knowledge on economics.

Well, let us start with how well the Islamic Republic of Pakistan where the ultimate sovereignty over the entire universe is declared to be with their preferred Highest Deity is doing economically. Oh wait, that is why you left it. That speaks for itself.

 

[Great Janjua]

Highest? That sounds debatable. Either way, their justice system is way better than here . Btw is that a union jack on your profile? Please dont act as if pakistan isnt filled to the core with rapists and predators. Just keep finding a way to blame it on muh maghribi culture hurr durr

Yes thats a union Jack I've heard this joke a thousand times you can be the first to the two thousand count. If you look at rape statistics u will get your answer

Well, let us start with how well the Islamic Republic of Pakistan where the ultimate sovereignty over the entire universe is declared to be with their preferred Highest Deity is doing economically. Oh wait, that is why you left it. That speaks for itself.

Apparently the Liberal clowns who have had the power circle for 5 decades plus are washed in the Ganga the same liberal who screams no wheat when he scams his local kissan these lot run your education system from top to down. But ill let that slide please do explain how conservatism restricts expansion of economy.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Which also begs the question that, with your own vote being clear, flying two union jacks, as to why don't you let the Pakistanis decide that question, instead of preaching to them from such a liberal country yourself? Or you could try and move back, so as to influence the society in whichever way you would prefer it go.

That's the solution. However, I don't think the elites would like the answer. It's not so much that the answer would threaten Pakistan (no, I think it would strengthen it). Rather, the answer would threaten the elites. However illiterate and helpless the rural worker is, he knows, at some level, his feudal overlord is a leech. However aloof the naukar may seem, he knows that you got to where you did because of who you know and who your dad knows. They all know there's a sense of unfairness at play, and when they see the elites (which includes well-to-do middle class people, by the way) play around, they're agitated.

You can't enforce ignorance forever as the victim's energy builds up until they reach a renaissance -- or a revolution. In either case, the ones to lose the most are those who've lived privileged lives in Pakistan, i.e., gotten benefits and perks from the system, a system that weakens the country, but they don't really want to destroy. I say this as someone who is a result of that privilege.

When Umar ibn Abdul-Aziz (rrh) became Caliph, he revoked the special stipends and grants that went to his relatives in Banu Ummaya. The elites confronted Umar (2), and said (paraphrasing), "You weren't complaining when you were getting these benefits. But as you became the Caliph, you decided to revoke them?" And Umar (2) responded (paraphrasing), "I took the benefits when I had no power to change things. Now that I do, I'm revoking them because they're wrong."

So folks like myself are just doing that... Benefit from the system when we couldn't do anything to change it, but now, tear that crap down Lol. But seriously, if we ever get the power, we should leave the direction to the Pakistani public. The whole public.

 

[VCheng]

please do explain how conservatism restricts expansion of economy.

Are you saying that there are enough liberals that have caused the economic failures in Pakistan? Because it seems obvious that it is a conservative society that has failed economically, and utterly so. Please do explain how liberals are to be blamed for that.

You can't enforce ignorance forever as the victim's energy builds up until they reach a renaissance -- or a revolution. In either case, the ones to lose the most are those who've lived privileged lives in Pakistan, i.e., gotten benefits and perks from the system, a system that weakens the country, but they don't really want to destroy. I say this as someone who is a result of that privilege.

And yet we see neither any renaissance nor revolution, so the ignorance is clearly perpetuated, fifty years and counting. The elite will simply move elsewhere for a period of time, if it ever came to that, which appears unlikely for the foreseeable future.

 

[Great Janjua]

Are you saying that there are enough liberals that have caused the economic failures in Pakistan? Because it seems obvious that it is a conservative society that has failed economically, and utterly so. Please do explain how liberals are to be blamed for that.

Your running away from my original question anyway the answer to your question is simple majority of Pakistanis live under 5 dollars a day whilst the people who effectively run your country tend be the libbus and with the monetary gains that the average layman can only dream off.

The average person who has good education tends to be a well off libbu who then gets a high post Gov job circulation of power has not changed.

Are you saying that there are enough liberals that have caused the economic failures in Pakistan? Because it seems obvious that it is a conservative society that has failed economically, and utterly so. Please do explain how liberals are to be blamed for that.



And yet we see neither any renaissance nor revolution, so the ignorance is clearly perpetuated, fifty years and counting. The elite will simply move elsewhere for a period of time, if it ever came to that, which appears unlikely for the foreseeable future.

Your at a breaking point revolution will come unless we stop mucking about and stop this degenerative imposition on the majority.

 

[VCheng]

whilst the people who effectively run your country tend be the libbus

But that is exactly where your argument falls apart with that plainly false assumption. A majority remains conservative, with clear evidence of religious practices carried out consistently and fervently.

 

[Great Janjua]

But that is exactly where your argument falls apart with that plainly false assumption. A majority remains conservative, with clear evidence of religious practices carried out consistently and fervently.

The majority is poor it has been looted by the minority your at a point where people are becoming frustrated and will literally dig a grave for those in power.

 

[VCheng]

The majority is poor it has been looted by the minority your at a point where people are becoming frustrated and will literally dig a grave for those in power.

Yes, so I keep hearing these claims, specially over the last few months. Still not much actually happening, as far as I can tell, despite such claims.

 

[Great Janjua]

Yes, so I keep hearing these claims, specially over the last few months. Still not much actually happening, as far as I can tell, despite such claims.

Mate you really itching for some rural Panjabi to lace a libbu with a G3 burst

no one create more sexual predators then madrasas

Average Low IQ Pakistani

 

[VCheng]

Mate you really itching for some rural Panjabi to lace a libbu with a G3 burst


Average Low IQ Pakistani

Not really. I know that what is being claimed currently is mere hyperbole designed to serve a particular agenda, that is all.