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Why is Imran Khan Endorsing Purana Pakistan?

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Why is Imran Khan Endorsing Purana Pakistan?

Posted: 06 May 2013 12:27 AM PDT

Most of you have probably by now heard of the Ahmadi-Imran Khan brouhaha of the past few days where the PTI central media cell, and then Imran Khan himself, issued statements that they are in no way soliciting the support of the Ahmadi community, that Khan has “an absolute belief in the finality of Prophet Muhammad PBUH”, and that PTI “totally subscribes to” and has no plans to amend the clauses of the Constitution that brand Ahmadis non-Muslims and liars (you can see a good summary of the whole episode here).
I assume most of you are deeply troubled by this. I am, to the extent that I’m questioning my (until yesterday) almost-made decision to vote for PTI. But this isn’t about trying to convince anyone not to vote for PTI or for anyone else though. It’s not really about voting at all. This is also not a defense of any other party or their actions, nor does it imply that they would do or have done any differently in how religious minorities, and more broadly the issue of extremism is treated. We all know both the original sin of the PPP in 1974 to amend the Constitution, and the PML-N’s indefensible political expediency in soliciting banned and extremist organizations’ support in this campaign. This post is however, a set of questions for the potentially-next leader of Pakistan that I’d like addressed, especially as a potential PTI voter.
For a man and a party whose fundamental premise has been to challenge and dismantle the oppressive, corrupt structures of power that the political elite have entrenched themselves in, it begs a few questions of exactly how PTI and Khan would respond to the resistance this very elite puts up if/when a government led by them tries to implement their vision of a ‘Naya Pakistan’. Anyone, anywhere who has tried to reform such systems and displace entrenched political elites has faced massive resistance to them. More often than not, they have failed to live up to expectations and at worse become just another part of the same system.
There’s a reason why ‘wohi purane chehre’ end up being in power repeatedly despite most people preferring that they weren’t. To make an obvious point, change is hard. Changing structures of power is extremely hard. For the ‘inqilabi’ change of the kind promised by Khan, it is not enough just to have ‘good, clean people’ (though necessary), he has to tackle these structures and change the narratives that support hold them up which have led Pakistan to its current predicament. In many ways, PTI has already chipped away large chunks of the pillars of the ‘purana Pakistan’, for which it deserves a lot of credit – politicizing a previously apolitical demographic, holding proper internal party elections, becoming a genuine third force, and most importantly consistently being committed to operating within Constitutional and democratic means.
One of the entrenched pillars of the ‘purana Pakistan’ we (I assume again) want to abolish is the discrimination and marginalization that’s been heavily institutionalized within the Pakistani state against religious minorities (which is especially perverse against Ahmadis, who have the honour of being discriminated against with their very own constitutional amendment). This structure has of course been cultivated and continues to be perpetuated with state support and the public discourses of Islam as imagined and interpreted by the right, extreme right, and extremely right wing (which seems to be the range of the political spectrum within which the major political parties fall into in Pakistan).
This structure and the discourses it flows from are what lets YouTube still remain banned. Why in order to register to vote or get a passport, you have to legally acknowledge that Ahmadis are liars and fakes (a ridiculous notion that in order to exercise your fundamental rights, you have to become party to denying them to a whole community). It’s what hampers us from pursuing normal relations with India even though all major parties, the majority of the population, and now even our Generals, support it. It’s what enables the Hudood Ordinances and blasphemy laws to remain, what allows the ridiculous applications of Articles 62/63 we saw in the candidate scrutiny process. At its worse, it’s metastasized into all too frequent violence against minorities (think Badami Bagh, Rimsha Masih, etc.), and questioning the faith and patriotism of those who support them, to violent ends (Salmaan Taseer-Mumtaz Qadri). It’s what allows hate-based groups such as the Taliban, Sipah-e-Sahaba/ASWJ/LEJ to claim some legitimacy because, after all, they are promoting and defending ‘Islam’, and we have to treat with some deference anyone claiming to be acting in the name of the faith.
So it in this context that Imran Khan and PTI are operating. It’s a tough environment to speak out in. I appreciate that. You could lose a lot of votes, be labeled a traitor/foreign agent, and at worse get violently attacked. But with this ‘controversy’, manufactured by the very forces that thrive on bigotry, here was an opportunity for Imran Khan to either ignore or denounce this politics of discrimination. Instead, he completely capitulated. No qualifications. ‘I, Imran Khan, indisputably reaffirm my faith in institutionalized bigotry and want to reassure you I have no plans to do anything about it’, he seemed to say. It was painful to watch for all of us who have a rock-solid belief in the man’s integrity, whatever our other disagreements with him might be, and who promised (as does PTI’s manifesto) protection of minorities (not to mention how immeasurably worse it would be for minorities to hear).
His statement was an overt acknowledgement, endorsement, and buy-in of the disproportionate power these forces enjoy in setting the parameters of public discourse, and by consequence public policy, in Pakistan. Those parameters over the past few years seem only to be shifting more and more towards the right and the ridiculous, where people like Hafiz Saeed and Mohammad Ahmad Ludhianvi are now regularly on mainstream media outlets and even run for Parliament. Khan, with the popular support he’s built up, has some power to challenge these parameters. That is, after all, what he has done with the political elite by successfully challenging dynasty and corruption. Yet instead of moving the discussion on minorities and religion towards a more “enlightened” state, where it’s okay to solicit votes from Ahmadis and treat them as citizens with rights (gasp!), he seems to have pitched his tent firmly within the status quo.
The political and militant groups that peddle the narratives of hate are also now important political and economic actors (the ‘new feudals’ in parts of the country) and so any government led by PTI cannot achieve what it says it wants without fundamentally questioning their place in the structures of power. So when Imran Khan makes this statement, I question what it means for building the PTI manifesto’s ‘Naya Pakistan’, when he feels so moved by a few “religious” parties cutting into his vote bank and by a viral SMS and Facebook campaign questioning why Ahmadis should be treated like other Pakistanis with rights.
Another example, PTI’s manifesto, rightly, proposes land reforms. What happens when the landlords we so detest hop back onto the ‘land reforms are haraam’ train? It was a similar skewed discourse of Islam that put a stop to them, when the Federal Shariat Court declared them un-Islamic. And, what happens when, assuming he’s serious about land reforms, he takes on the largest landlord and corporate empire in the country, the military? Their former leaders may be down on luck these days but they remain very good at running viral rumour campaigns and mobilizing the kind of ideological groups that led Imran to issue this statement.
It is of course, a bit unfair to only blame Imran Khan. I doubt he wanted to be drawn into this, and he is right that it is politically motivated. The problem is larger than a single public figure or party and it will take more than one election campaign or video statement to tackle. The counter to this is ‘yes, this episode is terrible, but who else would you vote for?’ Honestly, I don’t know, but for a party which promised to challenge all those structures that have put Pakistan in its current malaise, to refuse to engage one the most malignant is at best disheartening and disappointing, and at worse, sapping of any hope for real change. And if PTI cannot promise real change, why are we voting for them?
 
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Our constitution says that Ahmadi are not Muslim. :closed:
Imran khan is saying according to the constitution of Pakistan.
 
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At some point the free minded thinking that Imran Khan brings to the table he will have to move Pakistan towards this. But Pakistani mentality is that of an immature child when it comes to this issue.

He does NOT have to declare Ahmadis muslims... He just needs to say that the constitution does not recognize anyone to be Muslim or not, or of any other religion or not. The constitution accepts whatever religion you claim yourself to be.

Of course if he does that now, its akin to just committing political suicide. May be possible in the next 100 years. Not in present day Pakistan.
 
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and that PTI “totally subscribes to” and has no plans to amend the clauses of the Constitution that brand Ahmadis non-Muslims and liars (you can see a good summary of the whole episode here).
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One of the entrenched pillars of the ‘purana Pakistan’ we (I assume again) want to abolish is the discrimination and marginalization that’s been heavily institutionalized within the Pakistani state against religious minorities (which is especially perverse against Ahmadis, who have the honour of being discriminated against with their very own constitutional amendment). This structure has of course been cultivated and continues to be perpetuated with state support and the public discourses of Islam as imagined and interpreted by the right, extreme right, and extremely right wing (which seems to be the range of the political spectrum within which the major political parties fall into in Pakistan).
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Why in order to register to vote or get a passport, you have to legally acknowledge that Ahmadis are liars and fakes (a ridiculous notion that in order to exercise your fundamental rights, you have to become party to denying them to a whole community). ...


Extremely long and exaggerated article.

The first part has complete acceptance by all Islamic schools of thought and has been discussed loads of times.

Second, I consider a separate Ministry (for minorities) as the reason for the self-marginalization of minorities. Ironic? Yes, it is. Instead of becoming a part of the majority (as Pakistanis), minorities have been looking at themselves as minorities first and Pakistanis later. Pakistanis who discriminate are also to blame, but a more confident belief in being Pakistani first can challenge that thinking.

For the third part, this is again related to the first section.

What we need is a greater promotion of Pakistani nationalism instead of foreign-influenced concepts of identitiy. And here, I feel that I.Khan said whatever was necessary to protect his campaign at this crucial junture. He is the only one who talks of bringing Pakistanis out of being just Punjabis or Sindhis or whatever. But by being controversial at this moment, the Ahmadis would lose more than anyone else. This is their chance to end the differences.

Btw, I don't see anyone criticizing the people who've used the Ahmadi issue as a mere tool to target I.Khan.
 
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Someone has failed to understand that he was responding to allegations made unto him. ignorance prevails...bohoo :rolleyes:

now that such commotion after his reply, do you think he will set the record straight(like @Awsome said) and prove himself to be a modern thinking statesman his followers claim ?
That will be suicide, politically (or even literally, he does not have much security arrangement it seems)
 
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At some point the free minded thinking that Imran Khan brings to the table he will have to move Pakistan towards this. But Pakistani mentality is that of an immature child when it comes to this issue.

He does NOT have to declare Ahmadis muslims... He just needs to say that the constitution does not recognize anyone to be Muslim or not, or of any other religion or not. The constitution accepts whatever religion you claim yourself to be.

Of course if he does that now, its akin to just committing political suicide. May be possible in the next 100 years. Not in present day Pakistan.

Question wasn't about the constitution but about his personal belief which he expressed in the best possible way.
 
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Question wasn't about the constitution but about his personal belief which he expressed in the best possible way.

In the current scenario, he can't allow his personal or professional beliefs to be supportive of Ahmadis. He'll lose the elections. Religious freedom is something that even Imran can't give Pakistan. That was best possible under a dictator like Musharraf, and he buckled under pressure too when he tried to do it. Let's just accept it and move on. He can do a lot of other good things. Good humane concepts like religious freedom emerge from good societies. Let him improve Pakistan in other areas.
 
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In the current scenario, he can't allow his personal or professional beliefs to be supportive of Ahmadis. He'll lose the elections. Religious freedom is something that even Imran can't give Pakistan. That was best possible under a dictator like Musharraf, and he buckled under pressure too when he tried to do it. Let's just accept it and move on. He can do a lot of other good things. Good humane concepts like religious freedom emerge from good societies. Let him improve Pakistan in other areas.

We will get there eventually,however Ahmadis ain't helping themselves by boycotting every single election,including this.
 
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At some point the free minded thinking that Imran Khan brings to the table he will have to move Pakistan towards this. But Pakistani mentality is that of an immature child when it comes to this issue.

He does NOT have to declare Ahmadis muslims... He just needs to say that the constitution does not recognize anyone to be Muslim or not, or of any other religion or not. The constitution accepts whatever religion you claim yourself to be.

Of course if he does that now, its akin to just committing political suicide. May be possible in the next 100 years. Not in present day Pakistan.

If independent movement pursed this agenda of "separating" religion from the state then Pakistan would have not even made through drawing boards. Pakistan is leading to the point where its creation will start to contradict itself.
 
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If independent movement pursed this agenda of "separating" religion from the state then Pakistan would have not even made through drawing boards. Pakistan is leading to the point where its creation will start to contradict itself.

1947 was a 65 years ago. People's thinking will have to change.
 
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In the current scenario, he can't allow his personal or professional beliefs to be supportive of Ahmadis. He'll lose the elections. Religious freedom is something that even Imran can't give Pakistan. That was best possible under a dictator like Musharraf, and he buckled under pressure too when he tried to do it. Let's just accept it and move on. He can do a lot of other good things. Good humane concepts like religious freedom emerge from good societies. Let him improve Pakistan in other areas.

You are assuming personally or professionally he actually does support their position. No? Although I agree with you, Pakistan is 65 years old but has the maturity of an infant. It has to do with the blatant disregard towards education. That is where Imran Khan should start the change.
 
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1947 was a 65 years ago. People's thinking will have to change.

"Will have to", is a strong phrase. Looking at Turkey and its 100+ years of robust,fist held secularism moving towards AKP instead of CHP. Identical cases in Tunisia,Egypt and Syria which are also very old secular states, has got me puzzled if European secularism even has a chance in Pakistan. Why do societies who have lived as secular societies for a century or almost a century and have a higher literacy rate than Pakistan, turning to a "Civil Islamic Democracy Model" after "enjoying" European secularism for such a long time by their own choice ?.

Iran is an extreme example,however i'd like to mention it. During the shah period, Islam was kicked out of public life and the forceful secularization of the Iranian society was imposed, beards were banned, women were forbidden from wearing scarfs,Azaans were suppressed, large quantity of religious scholars and low level Mullahs were butchered. Shah thought it was "progressive" and Iran will become France but it became a religiously rooted democratic autocracy with extreme flavor. Next door, Afghanistan went a step further and adopted Communism, we all know how did that end!

Lets say Islam is a "suppressor" and European Secularism is a "liberator", than why didn't these societies which also are very old cultures,have a strong national identity,uniformed language,shared history and a long history of self governance,have not developed an immune system to this "system of suppression" called Islam?. I won't be so puzzled if this was the case with 1 or 2 countries instead of half a dozen and counting. If moving away from European secularism to a "Civil Islamic Democracy" model has become a "trend" in, formally leftist secular countries which even banned scarf than i am not sure what hope if any lies in the European secularism model for Pakistan??

Regards.
 
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At some point the free minded thinking that Imran Khan brings to the table he will have to move Pakistan towards this. But Pakistani mentality is that of an immature child when it comes to this issue.

He does NOT have to declare Ahmadis muslims... He just needs to say that the constitution does not recognize anyone to be Muslim or not, or of any other religion or not. The constitution accepts whatever religion you claim yourself to be.

Of course if he does that now, its akin to just committing political suicide. May be possible in the next 100 years. Not in present day Pakistan.

IK is in trouble from liberals not because he would not amend constitution an repeal 2nd amendment. But because he had to come out and publicly announce that he wants to 'clarify' that Ahmedis are non-Muslims and that he will not change constitution. This is not just bigotry that he shares with other Pakistani parties, but utter stupidity and inexperience in full display.

He also made it difficult, if not impossible, for himself to change the constitution even after say a hundred years like you say.
 
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