Why India didn't strike Pakistan after 26/11

[OTTOMAN]

Mentioned all that in an earlier thread but obviously it didn't go well with Micro power citizens for two reasons.

1: SU-30MKI is untouchable or at least it was until it started ejecting out it's pilots and was exposed by the likes of RAF.
2: Hajmola was in short supply.

@ topic, the visiting American commander was even shown images of fully armed MKI, squarely captured in the F-16 HUD.



The Day PAF Routed Out IAF

When we state facts, it is subsided by terming it fan boy stuff.
I hope reasonable Indians would see the reality and have a hint, how their own govt. is false feeding them on Pakistan and matters related to us.
It is also confirmed that Indian media is state controlled and how actually boogyman account is used to spread RAW propaganda in Pakistan and mislead Pakistanis.

 

[MilSpec]

.Now we have stand off weapons.
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Sorry brother, I don't buy that one bit, We have had Kh35 (3M-24E), Kh29ME, KH25L, AS30L, Martel Aj 168 long before that.

 

[SrNair]

Sorry brother, I don't buy that one bit, We have had Kh35 (3M-24E), Kh29ME, KH25L, AS30L, Martel Aj 168 long before that.

None of them are our own .All are imported .
I think Kh 35 is a long range cruise missile and also expensive .

 

[Indian Patriot]

I hope reasonable Indians would see the reality and have a hint, how their own govt. is false feeding them on Pakistan and matters related to us.

I am often called a flase flagger by some of the more stupid Indian members in PDF because I don't suffer from their herd mentality. I don't know if that in your opinion makes me a reasonable Indian or not but there is no way a PAF fighter will be able to lock onto a Su-30 MKI without the flanker seeing and noticing it first.

And this is not fanboy stuff, don't believe my word and re-check yourself. The Su-30 MKI radar is a beast and stuff made of PAF fantasies. That beast can act like a mini-AWACs if push comes to shove. PAF could have engaged Mig-21, maybe even Mirage 2000 but the honest and blunt opinion is that MKI is beyond PAF's league.

If you are talking about in general terms then I agree there is distortion of facts on both sides of the border. There is no war against Muslims in India as many Pakistanis would like to believe, trust me I would know. There are certain lunatics who like to create communal disturbance but otherwise things are cool. And I expect that Pakistan is not all about religious dogma and terrorism. I wish the more sane people on both sides of the border would compel their governments for peace.

 

[IceCold]

I am often called a flase flagger by some of the more stupid Indian members in PDF because I don't suffer from their herd mentality. I don't know if that in your opinion makes me a reasonable Indian or not but there is no way a PAF fighter will be able to lock onto a Su-30 MKI without the flanker seeing and noticing it first.

And this is not fanboy stuff, don't believe my word and re-check yourself. The Su-30 MKI radar is a beast and stuff made of PAF fantasies. That beast can act like a mini-AWACs if push comes to shove. PAF could have engaged Mig-21, maybe even Mirage 2000 but the honest and blunt opinion is that MKI is beyond PAF's league.

If you are talking about in general terms then I agree there is distortion of facts on both sides of the border. There is no war against Muslims in India as many Pakistanis would like to believe, trust me I would know. There are certain lunatics who like to create communal disturbance but otherwise things are cool. And I expect that Pakistan is not all about religious dogma and terrorism. I wish the more sane people on both sides of the border would compel their governments for peace.detection

Having a large radar does not always equate to first detection specially when MKI own RCS is pretty huge. Besides let's not forget that Pakistani airspace will be under it's own AWAC surveillance which means not only PAF will know the exact location of Indian jets, but a JF17 with a much smaller RCS under AWAC can detect and engage MKI first.
The only advantage I see for an MKI is its payload capacity but than again we will be fighting in a defensive environment.

 

[Indian Patriot]

Having a large radar does not always equate to first detection specially when MKI own RCS is pretty huge

Not denying your claims about RCS. But that doesn't mean the MKI cannot detect first. The PAF F-16 can have a lower RCS but they will still be limited by the range of their radar.

For example, if the PAF F-16 radar has a range of 100 km then the MKI has a range of 200+ km. The MKI will spot the F-16 first. And if the F-16 has closed the gap so much that it can detect the flanker then for sure the flanker too can lock on too the F-16. This is not being fan boy but simple logic.

 

[IceCold]

Not denying your claims about RCS. But that doesn't mean the MKI cannot detect first. The PAF F-16 can have a lower RCS but they will still be limited by the range of their radar.

For example, if the PAF F-16 radar has a range of 100 km then the MKI has a range of 200+ km. The MKI will spot the F-16 first. And if the F-16 has closed the gap so much that it can detect the flanker then for sure the flanker too can lock on too the F-16. This is not being fan boy but simple logic.

Not saying that MKI cannot detect first just negating your concept of PAF not being able to do anything against MKI which is not true.

 

[Ghostwhowalks]

umm....who said india didnt strike- its just that they didnt strike overtly militariliy....but look at the shambles pakistan has become ever since- isnt it painfully obvious that India would have some role at least and they are using unconvential payback means?

 

[NIA]

Kashmir is than out of your country!



Here comes the boogy man with Indian BS.
It is well known, that Indian Mirrage and Sukhois were forced to retrun after they were locked by Pakistani interceptors.
It is also well know that Indian build all the courage due to zardari and his tribe's control over Pakistan and its media.

Then come and take it.....your from a nation which takes International tours saying they will expose RAW. ...till now nothing jas happened.....your establishment have no idea whats going on.....get some clarity
LONG LIVE INDIA...

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so it means you will turn ur eyes from injustice,[/QUOTE]
What ever floats your boat..sir

 

[scionoftheindus]

Why should India send troops to physically cross the border when its ends are met by not crossing it ?

Notice the spike in explosions & incidents in Pakistan ever since. For the first time since 47 the PA has entered parts of its nation to enforce the weak will of its nation. The PA today spends close to 20- 25 % of its resources on defending itself from its own people. It fights a Zarb where success is claimed with no independent verification. Something somehwere is happening correctly. Add Balochistan, South Punjab & southern Sindh to this.

Going to war is the easiest thing & the stupidest one too unless all other options have been exercised.

War / crossing the border would coalesce all the carefully nurtured fissiparous elements inside Pakistan undoing years of hard work.

No, I think it was a wise decision not to cross over then . Moreover it was expected that we would.

On the last quote above in bold, dont you think its in India's interest that it never happens & that's how things are ?

I don't think Indian intelligence agencies are so powerful..had they been so powerful, they would have eliminated many anti India jihadi leaders by now.

 

[FullMetalJacket]

Maybe there's is another objective to the Cold Start doctrine that considered a secret. They say cold start took place after 26/11, and most say that cold start was nothing but sabre rattling. But what if cold start real aim was to destabilize pakistan through funding countless insurgencies, attacking pakistan's economy, and other aspects which we haven't seen yet? @third eye

 

[Indian Patriot]

Not saying that MKI cannot detect first just negating your concept of PAF not being able to do anything against MKI which is not true.

The only aircraft in PAF capable of taking on MKI is the F-16, and then again factors like radar, AWACs, BVR missiles, skill of pilots would come into play. The Flanker, both Chinese and Indian, is arguably the best fighter in Asia today unless the PAK-FA and J-20 start serial production.