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A handful of weeks back, in the ACER PISA test — the OECD’s annual global assessment of students’ skills (for South and South East Asia) — India came second from the bottom defeating Kyrgyzstan while China topped the list. This acts as the final nail in the coffin of India’s dented education system.

In spite of arrays of pan-Indian educational programs, India still has not been able to make education inclusive for all. On the contrary, China since the last four decades has been rolling out ambitious plans to revamp their education system.

The current Chinese education system extends from the guidelines that Premier Zhou Enlai gave in 1974; guidelines that are popularly known as sì gè xiàn dài huà or the ‘four modernisations’. And what are these? The education system in China revolves around agriculture, industry, technology and defense — that, as per the Chinese, are pivotal for the country’s development.

China today has installed key schools meant for highly academically inclined students. China has adopted a policy of providing nine-year compulsory education to all with a special emphasis on vocational training and higher education.

Contrast this with India, where a high-school student is unable to solve a basic mathematical problem or frame a sentence on his own.

Moreover, Indian rural schools are mired with problems of infrastructure and above all suffer largely from the curse of teachers’ absenteeism. On an average, more than 30 per cent of teachers are found absent in rural schools.

China’s focus on vocational education is also unique. In 2007, China allocated 14 billion yuan to be spent on vocational schools over the span of four years.

Vocational education in China, unlike India, is not just confined to manufacturing but encompasses sectors like information technology, tourism and medicine.

The government has also introduced projects like the State Project 211, State Project 895 and State Project 111, where special importance is given to top top 100 higher education institutes to enhance the quality of their graduates.

Back in 2003, China invited foreign universities to set up campuses; India passed a similar bill seven years later. Foreign universities have elevated the level of education to fantastic levels. Consequently, China is doing exceedingly well in global rankings of late!

Even in 2009, when the Paris based OECD, representing 34 countries, released its programme for International Student Assessment, the Shanghai region outperformed everyone else to be the top performer in all academic categories! According to OECD, China’s success is more because of its special emphasis on elite schools (key schools) where one is expected to shine par excellence.

In 2003, the Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) ranking showed that there were 23 Chinese universities amongst 35 featured in total. The top three Chinese universities that entered the top 200 worldwide university ranking included National Taiwan University, Chinese University of Hong Kong and Tsinghua University.

There are more on the list of the top 500, including institutes likes Beihang University (formerly known as Beijing University of Aeronautics & Astronautics) and Beijing Normal University, which entered the ranking for the first time.

In comparison, India produced a big blank sheet! Not only does India not figure anywhere in ARWU, but it is also invisible in the Times Higher Education World University Rankings and QS World University Rankings. India is way behind China in terms of even the number of universities
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There are 545 universities in India compared to 2,236 in China. Even in medical colleges, there are about 630 colleges in China compared to 251 in India.

The total enrollment in Indian universities is only 4.7 million compared to 11 million in China. The situation was similar some years back too when, in 2004-05, India churned out 464,743 engineering graduates while China produced 600,000 for the same year.

According to National Alliance for the Fundamental Right to Education (NAFRE), in about 600,000 Indian villages, the education imparted is only basic, literacy instruction by semi educated (often not even that) teachers! Aping China, India did set up numerous vocational schools.

Yet, even now, India has only 5,100 ITIs and 1,745 polytechnics (mostly dysfunctional) compared to China’s 500,000 VETs (Vocational Education and Training institutions).

Clearly, not only is India far behind in the number of quality institutions, but India is decades behind in framing the right kind of policies.

China is turning its population into this huge advantage, while we are ruining this massive possibility. Given the burgeoning population that we have, it is an imperative to educate everyone — or else the dividends would soon turn into a liability, if they’ve not already turned into one!

Why do Chinese students outperform Indians? | Deccan Chronicle
 
Here we go again !

@ China today, dont you think should compare India with Brazil ?
 
Chinese students do not outperform Indian students; it is the opposite based on my experience. Indian students are definitely more comfortable in their studies and get along with Americans much better than Chinese, most of who are poor English speakers, and do not socialize with non-Chinese.
 
BTW, can we stop using that Shanghai PISA demo(NOT OFFICIAL) testing at government selected Shanghai elite schools? It is totally meaningless as test subjects were elite students at elite schools, not random samples picked by PISA officials across China.
 
Chinese students do not outperform Indian students; it is the opposite based on my experience. Indian students are definitely more comfortable in their studies and get along with Americans much better than Chinese, most of who are poor English speakers, and do not socialize with non-Chinese.

How dare you ridicule the high IQ Chinese?
 
LOL, now we are discrediting OECD Educational tests in favour of "personal observations"? :lol:
 
because they have high IQ % than Indians. remember 105>85!

LOL You beat me to it. So hence proved and this thread should be closed.

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LOL, now we are discrediting OECD Educational tests in favour of "personal observations"? :lol:

No one is discrediting it bro...You have high IQ that we Indians cannot even remotely challenge.
 
LOL, now we are discrediting OECD Educational tests in favour of "personal observations"? :lol:
Why don't you save this "OECD Educational tests" argument....you are using it at every forum... :D
 
BTW, can we stop using that Shanghai PISA demo(NOT OFFICIAL) testing at government selected Shanghai elite schools? It is totally meaningless as test subjects were elite students at elite schools, not random samples picked by PISA officials across China.

I have asked you before, now I'm asking again. Do you have any source for your claim?
 
Chinese students do not outperform Indian students; it is the opposite based on my experience. Indian students are definitely more comfortable in their studies and get along with Americans much better than Chinese, most of who are poor English speakers, and do not socialize with non-Chinese.

So you measure performance by how well people get along with Americans and how well people speak English :lol:

Top 400 - The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2011-2012

49 Peking University China
71 Tsinghua University China
192 University of Science and Technology of China China

53 Pohang University of Science and Technology Republic of Korea
94 Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology Republic of Korea
124 Seoul National University Republic of Korea

India: N/A
 
So you measure performance by how well people get along with Americans and how well people speak English :lol:

Top 400 - The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2011-2012

49 Peking University China
71 Tsinghua University China
192 University of Science and Technology of China China

India: N/A

You forgot to add:

34 University of Hong Kong
62 Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
151 Chinese University of Hong Kong
193 City University of Hong Kong

India: Still N/A

So China has seven Universities in the top 200, and India has exactly zero.
 
well, according to indians here. we do better because chinese are smarter (iq 105) whereas their iq is about 80. but, i think the real reason is just that indians are lazy and shortsighted. they simply don't have the motivation or care to improve themselves or their country. the indians that do care, will eventually realize there's no hope in india and will leave the country.

to the indian members here, no, i do not think chinese do better because of our higher average iq versus your lower average iq. it's more to do with self-worth and how much motivation you have. indians have little self-worth and have little motivation, hence indian performance lacks when compared to chinese. iq may play a part, but it's definitely not a defining factor.

indians need to stop beating themselves up over having lower iq than their chinese counterpart. it's rather counter productive.
 
So you measure performance by how well people get along with Americans and how well people speak English :lol:

Top 400 - The Times Higher Education World University Rankings 2011-2012

49 Peking University China
71 Tsinghua University China
192 University of Science and Technology of China China

53 Pohang University of Science and Technology Republic of Korea
94 Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology Republic of Korea
124 Seoul National University Republic of Korea

India: N/A

Lol that chap judging by his retard post he is definitely an indian

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Here we go again !

@ China today, dont you think should compare India with Brazil ?

Look mate the article was writeen by indian, and no we dont compare ourselves to india you are right
 
You forgot to add:

34 University of Hong Kong
62 Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
151 Chinese University of Hong Kong
193 City University of Hong Kong

India: Still N/A

So China has seven Universities in the top 200, and India has exactly zero.

Koreans might think that Hong Kongers aren't Chinese, just a slap to the face of Koreans that SKY only has S in top 400, KY are nowhere to be seen.
 
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