Why did UAE refuse to let British nuclear submarine dock?

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Why did UAE refuse to let British nuclear submarine dock?


One of the Royal Navy's nuclear submarines was forced into a 2,000-mile detour when it was mysteriously refused entry into the United Arab Emirates.

HMS Tireless spent a week in international waters while it sought permission to dock before deciding to divert to Goa in India.

Ministry of Defence officials have not revealed the reason for the snub but insist there was never any safety issue.

The submarine HMS Tireless is seen in the Artic in Ministry of Defence March 21, 2007

The diversion meant heartbreak for a handful of families who had travelled to the Arabian Gulf hoping to see crew members for the first time in months.

A planned change of crew also had to be postponed as the Trafalgar-class sub made its way to India.
Some families are understood to be seeking compensation for the cost of flights and a week of accommodation while in the UAE.

A Royal Navy spokesman said: 'We do not discuss submarine movements for reasons of security.

'However, I can confirm that HMS Tireless's visit programme in the Gulf of Oman was delayed.

'We do not routinely comment on submarine operations so we are unable to discuss the detail, although we can confirm it was not a safety issue.

British sailors stand on the HMS Tireless submarine as it pulls out of Gibraltar in 2001

'A small number of families did travel to the region at their own expense in anticipation of the visit.
'They were kept informed of the situation by local Royal Navy personnel ashore.'

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office denied there were any diplomatic issues between the UK and the UAE.

A spokesman said: 'The UK has a long history of co-operation and friendship with the UAE.

'We maintain regular contact at the most senior levels and work together on shared interests and security challenges across the region.'

HMS Tireless was due to be decommissioned last year but it was reportedly spotted surfacing off the coast of Gibraltar last August amid tensions between Spain and Britain over fishing rights.

The 30-year-old vessel also suffered a leak in its reactor in February of last year and had to return to its Devonport, Plymouth, HQ for repairs.

MoD officials say the sub remains on active service but is due to be replaced by a new Astute class submarine.

The hunter-killer craft has a crew of 130 plus 18 officers and a top speed is 32 knots or 36.8 mph.

 

[Falcon29]

Where was this submarine going?

 

[Hack-Hook]

Just a small reminder , There is no body of water which is called by the fake name of Arabian Gulf.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Just a small reminder , There is no body of water which is called by the fake name of Arabian Gulf.

Persia ceased to exist 1400 and something years ago.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Persia ceased to exist 1400 and something years ago.

whatever make you happy ,and you can go Ask UN about the matter if you want.
By the way the Good Part is that KSA is only dated back to 80 year ago and was non existent before that .(probably another country made by British colonialism )(See if you want to be a troll , then be prepared to be trolled)

 

[jarves]

Source of the news??

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

whatever make you happy ,and you can go Ask UN about the matter if you want.
By the way the Good Part is that KSA is only dated back to 80 year ago and was non existent before that .(probably another country made by British colonialism )(See if you want to be a troll , then be prepared to be trolled)

You're trolling yourself.

It isn't about what makes me happy or not. It is a fact. Persia with all of its might, religious, cultural, historical values are gone for good. Why would I bother going to the UN seeking answers, when we all know that Persia was wiped out off the face of the earth! No matter how many elephants the Persians used in Al-Qadisyiah, it didn't help it.

To claim that KSA is an 80-year-old state is pathetically laughable as well. Maybe you were selling carpets at the bazaar, missed your Middle East's history class. It is a 200-year-old state, founded at the time where the Brits kept themselves busy in the subcontinent!

 

[ResurgentIran]

You're trolling yourself.

It isn't about what makes me happy or not. It is a fact. Persia with all of its might, religious, cultural, historical values are gone for good. Why would I bother going to the UN seeking answers, when we all know that Persia was wiped out off the face of the earth! No matter how many elephants the Persians used in Al-Qadisyiah, it didn't help it.

To claim that KSA is an 80-year-old state is pathetically laughable as well. Maybe you were selling carpets at the bazaar, missed your Middle East's history class. It is a 200-year-old state, founded at the time where the Brits kept themselves busy in the subcontinent!

loooool
JEskandari was simply stating a fact that the Gulf is internationally and historically recognized by the name Persian Gulf, and then you go off tangent about elephants in Al-Qadisyiah.
You seem to have some real built in anger.

Persia never existed for it to "cease to exist". It was always called Iran/Iranzamin/Iranshahr and we're still here and we are always gonna be here. Cultural, historical values gone for good? Yeah thats why we to this day still celebrate Nowrooz and many other ancient Iranian traditions.

Dont make me go Shapour Zol Aktaf on your ***.

KSA is indeed an artificial state. Its about as fake as the states of Qatar and Kuwait. Your country would not exist in its current form, had it not been for French and British colonialism and the treaty of Sykes-Picot.
You simply are an apolitical people that can easily be dominated.
First an ottoman mandate. You didnt do anything to free yourselves of their rule, until the Brits came. Then a British mandate and now you are an American mandate.
To this day you are an apolitical and subjugated people that answers to whoever is the biggest and baddest wolf around.

Dont bother responding, because I aint gonna read it.

 

[raptor22]

Persia ceased to exist 1400 and something years ago.

You know Arabi?
http://parssea.org/?m=139202&paged=17
متحف الخلیج الفارسی نحو ۷۰ خارطة من اکبر واشهر واضعی الخرائط فی العالم والتی کتب علیها اسم الخلیج الفارسی.

It's painted in Indian presidential palace.

In Egypt :

 

[Hack-Hook]

You're trolling yourself.

It isn't about what makes me happy or not. It is a fact. Persia with all of its might, religious, cultural, historical values are gone for good. Why would I bother going to the UN seeking answers, when we all know that Persia was wiped out off the face of the earth! No matter how many elephants the Persians used in Al-Qadisyiah, it didn't help it.

To claim that KSA is an 80-year-old state is pathetically laughable as well. Maybe you were selling carpets at the bazaar, missed your Middle East's history class. It is a 200-year-old state, founded at the time where the Brits kept themselves busy in the subcontinent!

200 year !!!!!

maybe that's as much as Saud Family could date themselves back but no the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932 after British Empire and France divided the middle east between themselves and for the information before that there never was a land called Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

and for the information ,a Persian carpet is in itself definition of Art in form and meaning so no shame in dealing with art but what have you were doing while your teacher lectured you on KSA history ? dreaming about chasing ..... in desert ?



well , history lessons is enough but now is time to answer the question in the article .



honestly is it strange that the ship was not welcome in UAE?
That sub is not even welcomed in Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman even hundred of miles away from a port , that submarine is a leaky nuclear submarine that needed to be decommissioned ages ago but it seems because UK don't have enough fund to replace it , they still use it.

that submarine is an ecological disaster and I believe no country must grant it a port for any reason .

well , history lessons is enough but now is time to answer the question in the article .

honestly is it strange that the ship was not welcome in UAE ,That sub is not even welcomed in Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman even hundred of miles away from a port , that submarine is a leaky nuclear submarine that needed to be decommissioned ages ago but it seems because UK don't have enough fund to replace it , they still use it.

that submarine is an ecological disaster and I believe no country must grant it a port for any reason .

 

[e3nad3alek]

loooool
JEskandari was simply stating a fact that the Gulf is internationally and historically recognized by the name Persian Gulf, and then you go off tangent about elephants in Al-Qadisyiah.
You seem to have some real built in anger.

Persia never existed for it to "cease to exist". It was always called Iran/Iranzamin/Iranshahr and we're still here and we are always gonna be here. Cultural, historical values gone for good? Yeah thats why we to this day still celebrate Nowrooz and many other ancient Iranian traditions.

Dont make me go Shapour Zol Aktaf on your ***.

KSA is indeed an artificial state. Its about as fake as the states of Qatar and Kuwait. Your country would not exist in its current form, had it not been for French and British colonialism and the treaty of Sykes-Picot.
You simply are an apolitical people that can easily be dominated.
First an ottoman mandate. You didnt do anything to free yourselves of their rule, until the Brits came. Then a British mandate and now you are an American mandate.
To this day you are an apolitical and subjugated people that answers to whoever is the biggest and baddest wolf around.

Dont bother responding, because I aint gonna read it.

In what way is Saudi Arabia an artificial state? You can't compare Saudi Arabia to Qatar/Kuwait. Saudi Arabia has actual history, being the birthplace of Islam. Qatar has no history and no citizens. There are 21 million Saudis and only 100,000 Qataris. A country of 21 million isn't artificial.

The people of the Arabian Peninsula aren't apolitical and easily subjugated. Did you forget the ''Arab Revolt'' by Saudis in Hejaz (Sherif Hussein bin Ali)?

Hejaz did try freeing itself from the Ottomans.

Yes, Saudi Arabia has fake borders and should get split into four different countries: Hejaz, Najd, southern Arabia and eastern Arabia. But Saudi Arabia isn't artificial because it actually has history and every part of KSA has distinct culture and dialect. You can't compare Saudi Arabia to Qatar (a country with no history and only 100,000 nationals).

whatever make you happy ,and you can go Ask UN about the matter if you want.
By the way the Good Part is that KSA is only dated back to 80 year ago and was non existent before that .(probably another country made by British colonialism )(See if you want to be a troll , then be prepared to be trolled)

Before British colonialism, Saudi Arabia consisted of 4 autonomous regions: Hejaz, Najd, southern Arabia ('Asir, Najran) and eastern Arabia (Al Hasa, Qatif).

All four parts of Arabia were ethnically and culturally different including different dialects. Then Ibn Saud conquered 80% of the Arabian Peninsula and named it after himself. The rest is Saudi Arabia.

 

[Hack-Hook]

In what way is Saudi Arabia an artificial state? You can't compare Saudi Arabia to Qatar/Kuwait. Saudi Arabia has actual history, being the birthplace of Islam. Qatar has no history and no citizens. There are 21 million Saudis and only 100,000 Qataris. A country of 21 million isn't artificial.

The people of the Arabian Peninsula aren't apolitical and easily subjugated. Did you forget the ''Arab Revolt'' by Saudis in Hejaz (Sherif Hussein bin Ali)?

Hejaz did try freeing itself from the Ottomans.

Yes, Saudi Arabia has fake borders and should get split into four different countries: Hejaz, Najd, southern Arabia and eastern Arabia. But Saudi Arabia isn't artificial because it actually has history and every part of KSA has distinct culture and dialect. You can't compare Saudi Arabia to Qatar (a country with no history and only 100,000 nationals).

Before British colonialism, Saudi Arabia consisted of 4 autonomous regions: Hejaz, Najd, southern Arabia ('Asir, Najran) and eastern Arabia (Al Hasa, Qatif).

All four parts of Arabia were ethnically and culturally different including different dialects. Then Ibn Saud conquered 80% of the Arabian Peninsula and named it after himself. The rest is Saudi Arabia.

 

[e3nad3alek]

What?

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

loooool
JEskandari was simply stating a fact that the Gulf is internationally and historically recognized by the name Persian Gulf, and then you go off tangent about elephants in Al-Qadisyiah.
You seem to have some real built in anger.

Persia never existed for it to "cease to exist". It was always called Iran/Iranzamin/Iranshahr and we're still here and we are always gonna be here. Cultural, historical values gone for good? Yeah thats why we to this day still celebrate Nowrooz and many other ancient Iranian traditions.

Dont make me go Shapour Zol Aktaf on your ***.

KSA is indeed an artificial state. Its about as fake as the states of Qatar and Kuwait. Your country would not exist in its current form, had it not been for French and British colonialism and the treaty of Sykes-Picot.
You simply are an apolitical people that can easily be dominated.
First an ottoman mandate. You didnt do anything to free yourselves of their rule, until the Brits came. Then a British mandate and now you are an American mandate.
To this day you are an apolitical and subjugated people that answers to whoever is the biggest and baddest wolf around.

Don't bother responding, because I aint gonna read it.

I don't expect from anyone in here to read my post.

The Arabian Peninsula has never been mentioned in the Sykes-Picot scheme whatsoever.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

maybe that's as much as Saud Family could date themselves back but no the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932 after British Empire and France divided the middle east between themselves and for the information before that there never was a land called Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

Actually, the First State of Saudi was founded 1744 my dear boy. Long before the dissection of the Levant under the Sykes-Picot agreement by the Anglo-Franco alliance after defeating the Ottomans. It is interesting to see how illiterate some people can really be.

and for the information ,a Persian carpet is in itself definition of Art in form and meaning so no shame in dealing with art

Never heard of an art where people endlessly step on.

but what have you were doing while your teacher lectured you on KSA history ? dreaming about chasing ..... in desert ?

I'm struggling to understand your sentence.

I guess you were trying to say that WHAT HAVE I BEEN DOING AT THE TIME WHERE MY TEACHER WAS LECTURING US ABOUT KSA?

The answer is simple. Our knowledge about our enemies is thrice extensive than what our enemies know about us.

200 year !!!!!

maybe that's as much as Saud Family could date themselves back but no the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded in 1932 after British Empire and France divided the middle east between themselves and for the information before that there never was a land called Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

and for the information ,a Persian carpet is in itself definition of Art in form and meaning so no shame in dealing with art but what have you were doing while your teacher lectured you on KSA history ? dreaming about chasing ..... in desert ?



well , history lessons is enough but now is time to answer the question in the article .



honestly is it strange that the ship was not welcome in UAE?
That sub is not even welcomed in Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman even hundred of miles away from a port , that submarine is a leaky nuclear submarine that needed to be decommissioned ages ago but it seems because UK don't have enough fund to replace it , they still use it.

that submarine is an ecological disaster and I believe no country must grant it a port for any reason .

well , history lessons is enough but now is time to answer the question in the article .

honestly is it strange that the ship was not welcome in UAE ,That sub is not even welcomed in Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman even hundred of miles away from a port , that submarine is a leaky nuclear submarine that needed to be decommissioned ages ago but it seems because UK don't have enough fund to replace it , they still use it.

that submarine is an ecological disaster and I believe no country must grant it a port for any reason .